Following proton's recent development has been like seeing a friend become way too interested in gas station drugs
this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2025
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I used protonmail in its early days but stopped after they started putting resources to pursuing cryptocurrency when their mail service was still not totally complete and while they also had ambitious plans for a whole office ecosystem as an alternative to Google docs etc. Seeing the zeal for this cryptocurrency angle at the time evaporated any trust I had in their product decision-making.
That and I remember a lot of their marketing being around the fact that they had ex-CERN employees but IIRC they weren't working on anything cryptography or security related at CERN so it sounded like they were just assuming scientists are smart so people will just assume their product is safer, which was a bit sus.
This chatbot thing is totally in line with that so I guess they haven't really changed.
Unrelated to protonmail, but related to getting the wrong guy for the job. The telegram CEO said that the cryptography of telegram was coded by his brother. (The CEO is also famously not a persona non grata in Russia which likely means the FSB has access to telegram (And if they have access, more people can have it))
Nikolai Durov has two Ph.Ds in maths, and is convinced he is the smartest man in the world, and Telegram's cryptography follows directly
i made the stupid mistake of doing math, then cs
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Introduce money into a system guarantees that system will degrade.
How hard is it to actually have a company that provides a useful product and doesn't veer off into insanity at the first possible occasion. Why does it always end up like this.
Because a company has to be x more valuable than it was last quarter. Then it has to be done again, and again, and again, forever.
No it doesn't though. Like it literally doesn't. Who says it does? Proton isn't even publicly listed so there's literally no reason for that.
This is just a con by Big Growth to sell more charts with lines going up.