Soyweiser

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[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Qntm, one of the people who writes for the SCP Foundation site, also has a thread on it from the fiction writing angle.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 13 hours ago

I think that is it tbh. There was no big centralized profit, so no need to hype it up.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Could also just be environment, pretty hard to stay on one site staunchly if half the people around you are then people your radically oppose.

Also wonder about the only game in town factor

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 10 points 18 hours ago

They added that Lasker is a “pathological liar”

Yeah, see also the tweets from his sister I think, where he lied to a lot of fam members about his academic background/etc.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

Yeah but I was trying to combine complexity theory as a loose theory misused by tech people in relation to 'people who get fired'. (Not that I don't appreciate your post btw, I sadly have not seen any pro-AI people be real complexity theory cranks re the capabilities. I have seen an anti be a complexity theory crank, but that is only when I reread my own posts ;) ).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

They now deleted their post and I assume a lot of others, but they also claim they have no time to really write and just wanted a collection of stories for their kid(s). Which doesnt make sense, creating 700 pages of kids stories is a lot of work, even if you let a bot improve the flow. Unless they just stole a book of children's stories from somewhere. (I know these books exist, as a child from one of my brothers tricked me into reading two stories from one).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but we never got that massive hype cycle for 3d printers. Which in a way is a bit odd, as it could have happend. Nanomachine! Star trek replicators! (Getting a bit offtopic from Galloway being a cryptobro).

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Iirc Galloway was a pro cryptocurrency guy. So this tracks

E: imagine if the 3d printer people had the hype machine behind them like this. 'China better watch out, soon all manufacturing of products will be done by people at home'. Meanwhile China: [Laughs in 大跃进].

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago

Thats fair, if you want to be generous, if you are not going to be Id say there are still conceptually large differences between the quote and "shit happens". But yes, you are right. If only they had listened to Scott when he said "talk less like robots"

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Recently, I've realized that there is a decent explanation for why so many people believe that - if we model them as operating under a strict zero-sum game model of the world… ‘everyone loses’ is basically an incoherent statement - as a best approximation it would either denote no change and therefore be morally neutral, or an equal outcome, and would therefore be preferable to some.

Yes, this is why people think that. This is a normal thought to think others have.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, had not noticed he posted, I'm not a stalker (and hope I don't give off those vibes). Do follow him in a few places.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Somebody found a relevant reddit post:

Dr. Casey Fiesler ‪@cfiesler.bsky.social‬ (who has clippy earrings in a video!) writes: " This is fascinating: reddit link

Someone “worked on a book with ChatGPT” for weeks and then sought help on Reddit when they couldn’t download the file. Redditors helped them realized ChatGPT had just been roleplaying/lying and there was no file/book…"

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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Soyweiser@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems
 

Begrudgingly Yeast (@begrudginglyyeast.bsky.social) on bsky informed me that I should read this short story called 'Death and the Gorgon' by Greg Egan as he has a good handle on the subjects/subjects we talk about. We have talked about Greg before on Reddit.

I was glad I did, so going to suggest that more people he do it. The only complaint you can have is that it gives no real 'steelman' airtime to the subjects/subjects it is being negative about. But well, he doesn't have to, he isn't the guardian. Anyway, not going to spoil it, best to just give it a read.

And if you are wondering, did the lesswrongers also read it? Of course: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/hx5EkHFH5hGzngZDs/comment-on-death-and-the-gorgon (Warning, spoilers for the story)

(Note im not sure this pdf was intended to be public, I did find it on google, but might not be meant to be accessible this way).

 

The interview itself

Got the interview via Dr. Émile P. Torres on twitter

Somebody else sneered: 'Makings of some fantastic sitcom skits here.

"No, I can't wash the skidmarks out of my knickers, love. I'm too busy getting some incredibly high EV worrying done about the Basilisk. Can't you wash them?"

https://mathbabe.org/2024/03/16/an-interview-with-someone-who-left-effective-altruism/

 

Some light sneerclub content in these dark times.

Eliezer complements Musk on the creation of community notes. (A project which predates the takeover of twitter by a couple of years (see the join date: https://twitter.com/CommunityNotes )).

In reaction Musk admits he never read HPMOR and he suggests a watered down Turing test involving HPMOR.

Eliezer invents HPMOR wireheads in reaction to this.

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