A place to post ridiculous posts from linkedIn.com
(Full transparency.. a mod for this sub happens to work there.. but that doesn't influence his moderation or laughter at a lot of posts.)
Ah, the future value of equity ... sacrifice your life on spec that the venture will succeed when most don't and that your boss won't find a way to fuck you over of it does. Bearing in mind that the more money is on the table, the more likely it is that your boss will try to screw you out of it.
If you want to go to Vegas, go to Vegas. Do an 80-hour stint, see if you get rich, and if you fail then go home. Don't spend years at some shitty company run by an asshole.
I love the bit about how people who work for early startups have to work long hours for little pay so that the owner of the company can walk away with a highly successful business that pays them handsomely while you get maybe a decent wage if you're lucky, or if the company doesn't fire you when they realize they can hire three people for half the pay that you were getting by the time the company is actually making a profit.
If you're not willing to work yourself to death.... We don't want you
Guy probably works, effectively, for 4 hoours a day, and then puts 16 into Jira.
On another note, I work 10 a day give or take, and that's because I can then take a few days off anyway. And I love my work and can afford it. Nobody pays me more than my hourly rate (if it is not a requested overtime in case of a night release [2x hourly] or being on emergency in case something breaks [0.5 hourly, but paid even if no emergency is raised, but have to be on call, so 8 hours of undisturbed sleep is like working 4 hours]). I do this on my own volition.
Founder/CEO/Designer - Micro...
Unless that ends in "soft" you're a failure and you're trying to bring everyone else down with you.
If it is "soft", you're a known pedophile and you should be in prison.
Guy makes CRM.
Yeah, if someone rejects me for not wanting to work 80 hours a week, I'd be glad. I worked a place where I was working between 50 and 60 hours a week all the time, and it affected my health. I will never do that crap again.
I am honestly surprised to hear people say stuff like this after the pandemic. My perspective post pandemic really changed. The things that are important to me isnt how much I work. Nobody's gonna give a shit that you put in 12 hour days at work when you're on your death bed. Spend time with the people you care about, and work to live. Not the other way around.
This guy (assuming this is real) is the chump, not the person who interviewed.
Only time I would work these kind of positions is when I truly enjoy the job, believe it can succeed AND shares of the company I don't have to buy. If i wanted extra hours and bad supervisors I could go back into the trades
The good thing about startups, even the ceo can do long hours without any rest without a team!
A simple "we are going a different direction" would have been enough. Fuck this CEO and cue* the Mario Bros theme!
*thanks, citizen Train.
Our western society is built on this bullshit. It is the cancer that is killing us all.
A while back I did consulting for a startup where the CEO would hold all-hands meetings at this home -- on Saturday mornings. Attendance wasn't mandatory, but everyone knew it would look bad if they didn't show up. The 'executive team' also met on Sundays, and made sure on Monday standups mentioning that they had met.
They started messaging me about those meetings, and also texting me at all hours about problems they expected looked at right then or the next day. My work was pretty specialized but they kept trying to drag me into other problems they were having.
I very politely told them to go pound sand. Mentioned work-life balance. That I wasn't an employee and would only be available during the contracted hours. Also, that I had other projects and it wouldn't be fair to drop everything just for them. To their credit, they backed off (not that they had a choice).
A few years later, long after I was gone, they completely imploded. Was told things got worse and more frantic towards the end.
Kept seeing the same pattern in subsequent companies. It all stems from bad management.
The thing is, as a society we keep supporting these scumbags. If we didn't continue to line their pockets, this would start to go away.
You can always say you are passionate about your job, and then after they hire you, you limit yourself to contractual obligations. It's that easy.
My actual reply to this nonsense that I’ve experienced before. Tell me what your startup does that benefits humanity. Other than making a few people rich, how does humanity benefit from this product. You want me to give up my life outside of work and I will, the moment you tell me this product will make humanity better.
I’m too tired of this bullshit. These people would rather just keep digging holes than determine the best way to build a house. If you’re ever in this situation, you dodged a bullet.
Tar and feathers… some ‘CEO’ make me to think about that old tradition.
