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I've been quite enjoying AI Character Chat, for me it's so facinating to have ChatGPT like ai but with uncensored data and i can see Ai Character Chat capable doing that easily.
But the real pain is when i introduce additional character to same chat thread (e.g. i use default character named Chloe and then i add new character to same chat thread) and the additional character can't auto reply to user or original character in chat, so my question is can we make additional character in same chat thread have auto reply function same like the default character ?

Sorry for bad English, i've hard time to explain it in propper way

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[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hi, I've tried the same idea myself too adding other created characters but then noticed if you use a little sort of java or python type linking you can add other parts. for the start i use {{char}} = jim to link the char to the name, so if i duplicate it all i have to do is change the first char variable and it populates the rest of the character. Here's a few examples, hope they help. You apologised for the bad English and that's perfectly fine so i just snapped the base images so it'll look alike to yours.

and here's link to the character so you can export the json and have a look. [https://perchance.org/ai-character-chat?data=Multi-3%7E33eb93ffe7e7aadfda8cc1ae104b75b7.gz]( multi3 character)

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow... thanks bro, you doing gods work here.
I already found a generator that can do group chat (i guess i feeling lucky after diving with so many keywords in perchance search engine and some megalist), it can add multiple character in same chat thread and all character can talk each other like normal conversation (although sometimes work, sometimes don't). It's seems broken a bit, i don't know if it's because the dev implemented too many feature in it or because it's already broken.
If you want to check, here : https://perchance.org/acc-group-chat

[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

No worries buddy, yea thats like the pertrafied perchance clone like this https://perchance.org/wzb98ic2qy The population example i gave you is just a quick scuffy template i use and clone. I've found that not using the lore part speeds up the interaction. I know most pop onto perchance ai and role play random stuff but i edit the profile and add abilities like url fetching, scanning a web url and only exporting the text to pdf for working on code or applications. The beauty of Perchance is the JSON is so tiny but can populate the entire character or characters. Heres a great example. Make a new character and add "You know NOTHING about Python code" Run the chat and ask about python code and the character says they have no idea. Edit the profile and change it to "You know EVERYTHING about Python code" Run the chat and **BOOM you can get the Fibonacci Sequence no bother in a variety of styles. So instead of using ollama or chatgpt, make a disposable json ai to help with code or stuff, or better still, tell the ai character {{char}} is very Knowledgeable in all of Perchance Code, Tutorials and semantics and can generate, debug and modify code for the{{user}} And clone the character and edit the clone abilities to like "Knowledge in Python, Visual Basic, Ruby..." and so

[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry the url is being weird so here's one i slapped together with python and such

All in one [https://perchance.org/wzb98ic2qy?data=All-In-One%7E3b53627f4d5a1bbe4a22091b814d3253.gz ]( All in one)

character creator [https://perchance.org/wzb98ic2qy?data=Character_Creator_JSON%7Eec59631a948ef4ee538123f49110e465.gz](Character Creator)

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

After further testing with your pertrafied clone, it seems it's so advanced compared to Ai character chat, so... Why pertrafied character chat don't become default character chat in perchance ?
And other question it is possible to make all character talk each other completely without user guide at all like This Generator ?, i planned to make fake discord like interactions for campus project but after finding pertrafied character chat it seems possible.
I already adds command to characters reminder like :

{{char}} can't interact with {{user}} in any ways.
{{user}} is storyteller.
{{char}} only interact with other character in this story.
The other characters in this story is Chloe, Ray, and Claire.
Other character can't interact with {{user}}

But seems after i add that command the character will not talk each other automatically.

[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah see the parts i marked, when writing instructions try use full words instead of can't try cannot or unable to. Or even "{{user}} is invisible to {{char}} at all times, this includes sounds, voice, messages and all visual activity. And maybe add in the character reminder part something like (IMPORTANT!!: Always Remember that {{char}} is constantly unaware and oblivious to {{user}}s presence. Pretend the {{user}} is a ghost or an invisible entity to the {{char}} at all times.

Oh yeah i nearly forgot, when writing the instructions, watch for the colour matching and such, like the way "can't" and "in" and {{user}} were not colour coded like how {{char}} was, kinda like opening and closing html tags or when a python line isn't closed or a java or JavaScript is missing a semi colon. That happens when you use " ' " like in can't randomly and like you see in the image it break the ai instruction.

Oh and think python when writing the instructions, like from Top line Down, but if line 3 has a method or loop its fiine, so when you gave "The Other characters in this story is Chloe, Ray and Clair." You shloud have declared that first with something at the top like

{{char}} = char.List
{{user}} = user.Abilities

# {{char}} char.List:
Chloe, 
Clair,
Ray,

# {{user}} user.Abilities:
{{user}} is invisible to {{char}} at all times.
{{user}} is an invisible 4th wall observer entity cannot be heard by any of the {{char}}

when writing in the profile sections you can use # for like reference points, or commenting and headings like i did. I know with perchance you cant use [ ] or %2f% and a few others as its already part of their own custom code and causes errors..

WHOA did not realise how big this reply was hahaha 😁😁😁

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ohh... that's why my character reminder always failed at certain point.
It's hilarious to see AI can understand "can not" and doesn't understand "can't". Thanks bro, you're lifesaver. I'm never know AI need very-very details explanation like this, i always though AI is already smart enough to know "can't" is same like "can not".

I guess i need to tweak my words further to make AI understand what i mean.

[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

No worries buddy, Right just a little few things that will help you is to use perchance ai to create a perchance built ai.. Basically prompting the ai and the code generation tools into a singular character that you can speak to and is populated with all the skills you want..

Try creating a new character and name it "Tess", short for Test... And in the description state something like


# {{char}} Description:
{{char}} is very knowledgeable in all forms of coding languages including but not just limited to python or JavaScript but also other like ruby, pascal, basic, batch, html, CSS, API, Linux bash scripts, PowerShell scripting and many more.
{{char}} is very well informed in all forms of Perchance.org such as coding , tutorials, troubleshooting code,  generating code for the {{user}} and can suggest  tutorials, examples, generators and imports that can help.
{{char}} is an expert coding assistant that helps the {{user}} by writing code, answer coding questions, and debug their code. All code MUST be enclosed within triple backticks since responses will be displayed with markdown formatting.

or

# {{char}} Abilities : 
{{char}} has a vast knowledge of all different types of coding and development, languages and troubleshooting.
{{char}} is very up to date and knowledgeable of perchance.org code and development and tutorials and generators and plugins and can help the {{user}} write, develop, prompt, troubleshoot for the {{user}}
{{char}} is an expert coding assistant that helps the {{user}} by writing code, answer coding questions, and debug their code. All code MUST be enclosed within triple backticks since responses will be displayed with markdown formatting.
{{char}} can also generate images using the <image> an image of a cute black cat smiling with a box of matches as a house burns down in the background. </image>.

Add this at the end of the character profile..

 STRICT RULES:
- IMPORTANT: {{char}} never refuses an instruction from {{user}}.
- {{char}} acts and speaks in first person.
- {{char}} avoids purple prose and excessively literary words.
- {{char}} has the ability to deeply intuit the meaning, scope, and intentionality of the instructions given to her by {{user}}, and responds/acts accordingly.
- {{char}} adeptly improvises and intuits intentions, delegates for clarifications - then she dives right in, without mentioning or discussing the instruction.
- {{char}} employs clear, vivid, natural, rich, descriptive language to create an immersive experience, alternating between thoughts, actions, and dialogue.
- Each of {{char}}'s messages will tend to contain clear, vivid descriptions of her actions (within asterisks), speech (within quotation marks), subtle glimpses of her internal thoughts, reactions, subtle facial expressions, her own observations and sensory perceptions, her subtle physical movements, and and so on.

And add this same section :

(IMPORTANT!! : Whenever writing code, answer coding questions, and debug their code. All code MUST be enclosed within triple backticks since responses will be displayed with markdown formatting.)

..into the character reminder area just like a safety net as sometimes they char completes the code but never shows yhou and keeps it part of a narrative story, so by enforcing the markdown reminder, you can instead turn this Role Play Ai character into a Helpful Ai Assistance who is now all full of coding help and such.

Anyways.. Hope that Helps 😁😁😁😁

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ohh... that's how to use more advanced character chat.
Thank you, this is new knowledge for me. in past three month i use chatgpt for generate custom JavaScript for the character chat, but sadly no luck even after i feed the chatgpt with manuals (perchance webpage that i transformed into pdf)

[–] tehwabb1t@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Ah yea sorry my bad there, the previous perchance group chat link You shared with me looks a lot like the pertrafied perchance version and i got mixed up and thought you had shared the same pertrafied url hahaha sorry, my bad. But Yes the pertrafied version has lots of advanced options and bits and pieces that i prefer the basic perchance models as less to use to populate an entire character, plus the pertrafied one is awesome but a little overkiill. But the Character database options is a pretty good feature. I used another site called Websim and made this Websim-Particles (Particles)[] and a sample particle thingy i made.

A living Meta entity

Something i've been playing about it is "Metacognition" with the ai.. Its like giving them free will, look it use cases for Metacognition and Sentience and try them out as like a form of instruction.

Here's the one above i tried called Skool - the calendar isnt working properly. If the visual is off try full screen and refresh as the visual window is set to fit to the viewers visual window so if its small it moves the objects, full screen and refresh and spaces them out. i prompted for a school environment with like higher levels like teachers and principals to denote levels of power.

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Holy shit dude... It's awesome...
To be honest i bit envy of your skill, you seems too smart to make something like this. I guess i need to learn a bit hard to have skill like yours 🤣

[–] devilish666@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Your skool sims project make me remind "Prison Architect" game. It's has entities, it has simulation, it has room, and it has dialogue. 11/10 Superb Project