Bing/DuckDuckGo/Qwant actively block southparkuncensored.com : piracy


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[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is it a surprise? Bing is controlled by M$, and their search results are taken by Qwant and DDG. Ecosia also runs with google results so it isn't affected.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Jokes on you, i tried using qwant and they just straight up deny me access because using a VPN apparently is "suspicious".

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago

I mean they're not wrong... Their motives are suspicious, so you use a VPN. 😁

[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Brave Search also returns results for it just fine as well. Which makes sense given they run with their own indexing now (with fallbacks to Google and Bing only when requested).

[–] upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

DDG is more of a privacy frontend for Bing then its own search engine. Typically if its not on Bing its not gonna be on DDG.

Works on both Brave and Google via Mullvad Leta

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ddg gets its results from more than just bing as well as doing some curation on top.

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[–] eodur@piefed.social 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Kagi is unaffected.

[–] CubitOom 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

[–] eodur@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I guess you are supporting my assertion?

[–] CubitOom 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I mean yeah, this is a screenshot of the search results. It is weird that there is a reddit post asking to see the opposite above the desired page which just needed the TLD added. But still, the page in question is in the search results.

Not sure why I got a downvote, but I don't mind being unpopular.

[–] eodur@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In context it felt like a rebuttal, but with the link clearly shown. Maybe a comment to help clarify next time?

For the record, I deprioritize reddit so the actual link is on top for me.

[–] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is the problem with social media, especially Lemmy and Reddit. It is the default stance to assume a neutral comment is hostile. Why do we all argue so much? I've been there, but I'm trying to be kinder online. I think it's a systemic problem and I don't know the solution.

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[–] CubitOom 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How do you do that in Kagi?

[–] eodur@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

Click on the shield icon on the right, then the "down shield" icon in the resulting popup. Or you can block the site entirely!

[+] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

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[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Kagi. Privacy focussed, no ads, and excellent results with options for sorting preferred sources to appear at the top, or not. Costs money but man, it’s fast and good in the way Google was back in the day. Some plans also include anonymous access to a variety of LLMs though they are older models, and if they can run them locally, they do. Really liking it.

[–] troed@fedia.io 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FWIW the founder of Kagi is adamant that subscribers must accept part of the subscruption money being sent to Russia (Yandex, fully govt-controlled) and has refused all attempts at excluding it. When questions started appearing he even tried claiming Yandex isn't even russian.

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Source?

[–] AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Very quick internet search yielded this result: https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integration-due-to-the-geopolitical-status-quo/19

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[–] july@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Ngl I don’t get these people always being like “Source?”

Just look it up bruh it takes less time than to comment

[–] Ilandar@lemmy.today 12 points 1 month ago

Asking the person who purports to be an expert on the situation to provide some context is much faster than someone who knows nothing about it, like myself, trying to find it.

[–] pishadoot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

Yea, it's gets to sounding like playground argument tactics "nuh uh!" (which is basically sophistry).

Even when I'm being genuinely curious these days, I try to ask for a source by making it a convo, like "do you remember where you came across that or what should I search for to get good results", instead of "source?".

[–] RedPandaRaider@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which country are Kagi servers hosted in?

[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

Dunno. Check their about page, but appears to be through GCP?

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I swapped to Kagi this month. It's refreshing. I'll probably end up on the $10/month plan. They also have a library pilot program I'm trying to get my academic library to look into.

[–] DrinkMonkey@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I used it for almost a year at the lowest tier, then got the couples plan more recently and it has high spouse approval factor, even though there was some initial setup

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

https://leta.mullvad.net/ uses Brave or Google

https://searx.space/ uses any of the big search engines you want, you do have to pick an instance

[–] relativestranger@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

https://leta.mullvad.net/ uses Brave or Google

thanks for this one. i'm currently trying out their encrypted and adblocking dns on the hotspot i set up on dietpi to isolate 'streaming' devices, comparing its effectiveness to pihole and adguard home.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Best one is probably (in my opinion) selfhosting a searxng instance. It takes results from a dozen of engines (you configure which ones) and merges them according to the configured weights and some algorithmic magic.

If you use public instances, the owner might have tuned the results to suit themselves and it returns garbage for your usecase. And also they frequently get timeouts because a lot of people use them. So don't get turned off by trying a couple of them.

Since I started running my own private instance I am super happy with the search results.

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[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yacy? You can self host if you want.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Startpage is similarly anonymous, but it uses Google search

[–] lunsjentilanette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And is owned by an ad company afaik

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

Yeah, they advertise using only the context of the keywords of your current search. No storing of personal data, no profiling. They've had third parties review that. Seems fine to me.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Startpage's majority shareholder is System1 who is an adtech company. We don't believe that to be an issue as they have a distinctly separate privacy policy. The Privacy Guides team reached out to Startpage back in 2020 to clear up any concerns with System1's sizeable investment into the service, and we were satisfied with the answers we received.

From privacyguides.org

[–] goldkiddo@feddit.it 2 points 1 month ago

mojeek has own search engine unlike kagi

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[–] Beacon@fedia.io 18 points 1 month ago

Context is needed. What is that site? And why do you believe search results about it are being censored?

[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

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[–] ohshit604@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To be fair, SearXNG still queries DuckDuckGo, QWant an Bing by default, I suspect Google does the same thing so Startpage would be out as well.

[–] Engywuck@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AFAIK, Yandex doesn't censor piracy stuff.

[–] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

....Yandex, you mean Russia?

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[–] ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Streisand Effect incoming.

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