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    [–] mastod0n@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    Pro tip for new VIM users: it's "Q".

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    [–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

    If you use Vim you'll never use any other software

    [–] Tuxman@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

    I would respond.. but I can’t figure out how to exit Vim

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    [–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    The problem with using Vim is that you have to learn Vim, but early in my career I was in single-ecosystem shops that all used IDE's for whatever tech (Microsoft= Visual Studio, Java = Eclipse / NetBeans, PHP = Sublime Text, arguably not an IDE)

    By the time I got to the point in my career where I got to choose the tooling, VSCode was already a thing and it has an extension for anything you can think of.

    So I never had to learn Vim, and now it's in the too-hard basket, and VSCode is ubiquitous and works surprisingly well

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    [–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    You surely mean Emacs, no?

    [–] ICastFist@programming.dev 5 points 1 month ago

    He tried to, but couldn't enter edit mode to type it out

    [–] zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (6 children)

    Even though I regularly use vim for editing files, so many shortcuts and commands are still unknown. How would one approach this issue without reading the man page? Asking for a friend…

    [–] expr@programming.dev 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    vimtutor is the starting point for learning vim, but it's fairly surface-level. To actually learn vim, you should read through the user manual by typing :help usr_01 and hitting enter in vim. It's also accessible online here: https://vimhelp.org/usr_01.txt.html#usr_01.txt.

    It's a fairly quick read, about 40ish pages that are reasonably short and is intended to be read straight through like a book. It provides a good overview of all of vim's features.

    Note: this is distinct from the reference manual, which is much, much larger and isn't intended to be read straight through.

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    [–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (10 children)

    Text editors should be simple and approachable above all. Nano is undeniably the best by this definition.

    [–] A7thStone@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago
    "Ed is the standard text editor."
    
    Let's look at a typical novice's session with the mighty ed:
    
    golem> ed
    
    ?
    help
    ?
    ?
    ?
    quit
    ?
    exit
    ?
    bye
    ?
    hello? 
    ?
    eat flaming death
    ?
    ^C
    ?
    ^C
    ?
    ^D
    ?
    
    ***
    Note the consistent user interface and error reportage.  Ed is
    generous enough to flag errors, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm
    the novice with verbosity.
    
    "Ed is the standard text editor."
    
    Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all.
    
    ED IS THE TRUE PATH TO NIRVANA!  ED HAS BEEN THE CHOICE OF EDUCATED
    AND IGNORANT ALIKE FOR CENTURIES!  ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS
    BODILY FLUIDS!!  ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR!  ED MAKES THE SUN
    SHINE AND THE BIRDS SING AND THE GRASS GREEN!!
    
    When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless
    help screens and cursor positioning code!  I just want an EDitor!!
    Not a "viitor".  Not a "emacsitor".  Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED!
    ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!
    
    TEXT EDITOR.
    
    When IBM, in its ever-present omnipotence, needed to base their
    "edlin" on a UNIX standard, did they mimic vi?  No.  Emacs?  Surely
    you jest.  They chose the most karmic editor of all.  The standard.
    
    Ed is for those who can *remember* what they are working on.  If you
    are an idiot, you should use Emacs.  If you are an Emacs, you should
    not be vi.  If you use ED, you are on THE PATH TO REDEMPTION.  THE
    SO-CALLED "VISUAL" EDITORS HAVE BEEN PLACED HERE BY ED TO TEMPT THE
    FAITHLESS.  DO NOT GIVE IN!!!  THE MIGHTY ED HAS SPOKEN!!!
    
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    [–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (5 children)
    [–] HelloHotel@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Please! no more editor wars, just use ed! And if you need the fancy modern features, you can always use notepad.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

    Ed, the greatest WYGIWYG editor of all, is the standard text editor

    https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

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    [–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

    listen here, you little shit

    [–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 6 points 1 month ago
    [–] bmpvy@feddit.org 6 points 1 month ago

    But idk what that is and I don't want to google it 🀑

    [–] chocrates@piefed.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    How do I get off Google voice?

    [–] AstroLightz@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

    Guess what? :)Vim

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