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[–] iii@mander.xyz 195 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I once failed a uni assignment, because the teachers assistant wrote remarks on a pdf in a way that's only viewable in adobe's products.

She failed us because "we ignored her remarks". Had no idea they were there.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 1 month ago

Had the same in gymnasium, eventually got it overturned via bitching about it. Notes wouldnt even show up on their webapp : /

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 33 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Ooh I would fucking LAY into her in the review if she did that, and cause a stink to the dean. That shit would've pissed me off so bad. I hate when people expect you to be telepathic like that.

[–] FeatherConstrictor@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be honest she probably didn't even know that the comments were only visible to Adobe product readers, but that's still infuriating as hell

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[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Tbh it's probably less of an Adobe problem and more due to the absolute mess that is PDF annotations.

Despite being a defined open standard, most free PDF viewers either don't support them (zathura etc), or fuck them up (GNOME evince). Even some of the viewers that do support them like Okular need extra configuration.

Unironically Firefox as a PDF viewer actually has the best support for PDF annotations.

The state of PDF Readers on Linux - Discussion - It's FOSS Community - https://itsfoss.community/t/the-state-of-pdf-readers-on-linux/12798

[–] TimeNaan@lemmy.world 126 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Wasn't .docx also supposed to be an open standard but M$ kept fucking with the implementation so it would only work in Office?

[–] Puttaneska@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Isn’t it open? It works with Dropbox and macOS Numbers opens .docx and saves as .docx.

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So does LibreOffice, but they’ve been called out multiple times for purposefully making the format overly complex to make it as hard as possible to reliable read and write to it.

[–] stratoscaster@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I genuinely think they're just incompetent lol

You should see the windows xp source code

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 9 points 1 month ago

Yes, it technically is a standard, but because it's an ISO standard you have to pay for I wouldn't call it open. https://www.iso.org/standard/71691.html but people have different definitions of what an open standard is and I'm not trying to critique them.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 48 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Could we perhaps not drag RMS out of whatever dark place we're blessed not to hear about him from now?

We have enough pedo shit going on with the POTUS at the moment.

Also, LibreOffice saves in .docx format, if you want to be pragmatic rather than dogmatic.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 58 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] loweffortname@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I kinda like using Doctorow for this:

  • Similar facial expression
  • Works with the EFF
  • Cool shades
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[–] blurb@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)
[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks. Sorry I should have linked to it. I kind of assumed it was common knowledge.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had no idea. With all of the things I have to follow on a daily, weekly, monthly, and yearly basis some things are just going to fall through the cracks. "Minor public figure holds reprehensible views" won't generally hit my radar. "Major public figure did something reprehensible" may not hit my radar depending on how busy or drunk I am in a given week, which will leave me wondering why people hate them years later.

I'm not saying this as a criticism of you. You brought it up which is super valuable. There's just so much shit to keep up with that I always appreciate context because I have other things going on and rarely have any idea what reprehensible thing a particular person has said or done.

[–] ExtremeDullard@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hey no sweat 🙂 I just happen to be old enough to have known / read about / heard about RMS for decades. Given enough time, if you're at all interested in the free software movement, his less-than-savory traits naturally end up coming to your attention.

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Does using the computer just turn people into this?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 9 points 1 month ago

Wow, he's quite passionate. I just kept scrolling through the quotes and it never ends

[–] jcr@jlai.lu 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, LibreOffice saves in docx. Which is fine as long as you don't care what it looks like when they open it.

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago

At least for school assignments this is easily fixed by just opening it yourself in the school library and adjusting format. It's usually pretty minor.

Honestly most of my professors accepted papers saved as pdfs which was helpful too

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[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 43 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Everyone knows the only acceptable formats are .pdf and .tex, everything else should be shunned out of society.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 24 points 1 month ago (5 children)

.tex is a source format, not a presentation format, and as such should not be valid in a submission field.

they should take .ps though.

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[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (3 children)

.pdf can contain malware
But the entire paper in a .jpeg would be hilarious

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[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  • If it's meant to be pretty, portable, and read-only: pdf
  • If it's text with no formatting: txt
  • If it's formatted and read-write: md
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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Okay, I just want to say I blame schools for Microsoft's monopoly on personal computing. School sysadmins are always dazzled by the shiny looking gifts that Microsoft gives them, ensuring the next generation of Microsoft useds is ready.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes I really liked the "microsoft excel and spreadsheets" class everyone had to take for 1-2 whole years. The tools designed for us to learn basics within weeks and discover features naturally over time.

I mean imagine how many negative side effects on education there would be if we just spent one or two weeks learning KStars or Geogebra or Kalzium.

Don't worry tho cause with microsoft backing openai I am sure every student will be given a set of chatgpt premium accounts to "help" them in their learning. Universities are already doing it en masse.

You lose some you lose some.

[–] eah@programming.dev 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Schools could have used that time they were "teaching" the Office suite to give an introduction to unix, programming, and the basics of how the internet functions. I had to read and analyze Beowulf, Shakespeare, Chaucer, and Homer and memorize the names and formulas of 33 polyatomic ions. Computing education to the same depth should have been and should be required as it was required for the other subjects.

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[–] flambonkscious@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Really?

They're almost universally Chromebooks and the Google suite for schools these days...

[–] lime@feddit.nu 15 points 1 month ago (9 children)

yeah but that's fairly recent.

when i was in school in the late 90s it was all microsoft all the time. we had courses specifically on Microsoft^TM^ Word^TM^. that sort of indoctrination isn't visible in the workplace until the people going through it are old enough to work.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

K-12 use Google, University use Microsoft

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[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Most of my professors prefer pdf

[–] PropaGandalf@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (1 children)

most of them accept pdfs so if thats the case for you just write the assignment in typst or latex and compile to pdf

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Haven't used word in over 20 years and have no intention of ever using it again.

OpenOffice baby!

[–] lefixxx@lemmy.world 39 points 1 month ago (5 children)
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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Best thing I ever saw was an Italian cooking class that sent recipes as an ODT, and then 20 minutes later as a DOCX as an afterthought for the Americans.

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[–] matmarspace@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

It's the right thing to complain about that kind of stuff and to do it officially.

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Nick Offerman after getting Jumanji’ed

[–] axEl7fB5@lemmy.cafe 10 points 1 month ago

Me when the school system is Google Classroom

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 7 points 1 month ago

just rename the file and submit it as a .docx, it's their fault

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