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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls β€œthe plateau of sustainability”

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    [–] Taldan@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Not a single comment about Kali that I can pick a fight with?? So disappointed rn

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    [–] Dequei@piefed.social 7 points 1 month ago
    [–] ATS1312@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    As a Qubes user, do I span the entire graph?

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    [–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

    Went straight from ubuntu to fedora so I guess I skipped the whole ride.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
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    [–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Why is facebook the final stage?

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    [–] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

    Where does sadistic curiosity about Slackware fit on this graph after daily driving OpenSuSE Tumbleweed?

    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 month ago

    Being a Debian guy for a long time, now Guix.

    [–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago

    Damn I jumped right from Pop_OS to Endeavour, then plunged into Arch before running back crying to Endeavour...

    [–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

    I skipped that whole initial peak: started on Ubuntu 20 years ago, moved to kubuntu after unity and moved to tumbleweed 6 months ago.

    [–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    I'm at the Kubuntu stage, and don't intend on changing anytime soon!

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    [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 7 points 1 month ago

    I went from Ubuntu to Mint to Debian and, now, Guix; so…I dunno.

    [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 month ago

    Gravity brought me back to Arch from Fedora.

    [–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago

    I use Debian and Kali funnily enough. But then again im studying cysec.

    [–] hehehe@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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    [–] ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    20+ years in, I just use the tool I know will get the job done.

    LMDE on the laptops.
    Arch on the media/gaming rig.
    OpenBSD on the writing machine.

    [–] jaykrown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

    Linux Mint and haven't done anything else for over a year.

    [–] mere@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

    Ok this describes me annoyingly well. Ubuntu, then Manjaro, then Arch, and now Gentoo. Now I don't really want to go any further because I quite like this distro :p

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    [–] tatterdemalion@programming.dev 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Pretty sure my journey looked something like:

    1. Ubuntu for a while
    2. A furious bout of hopping experiments: Debian, ElementaryOS, Crunchbang, MX Linux, Fedora
    3. Arch for a bit, but it was too much struggle
    4. Ubuntu for a while, embracing the "vanilla" lifestyle
    5. Manjaro for a while. It seemed to solve my previous issues with vanilla Arch.
    6. EndeavourOS, basically a better Manjaro.
    7. NixOS, which had a significant learning curve but ultimately gives me the most control and repeatability for all of my machine configs. Still daily driving this on my desktop, router, and some web servers.
    8. Tried out Fedora Atomic on my old laptop out of curiosity. Installing packages was ultra slow. Workflows were too annoying.

    So I think the graph is actually pretty reflective of my own experience, aside from some of the specific distro choices during my peak ignorance phase, and obviously I ended up at NixOS which isn't even on here.

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    ironically started on fedora and debian like 20 years ago (which i hate is 2006ish instead of 1976 T_T); mostly for servers.

    now i'm on mint in my first foray into using it full time as a desktop so i know most of the cli and backend stuff and it's just getting used to the ui and desktop parts.

    I feel like nixos doesn't belong on this meme, and I'm happy it's not. While it's technically Linux, I feel like it's different enough that learning nix only teaches you a bit about Linux and a lot about nix.

    [–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

    I run Fedora in the Valley of Despair.

    [–] Routhinator@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    30 years of using Linux and I think this chart is whack. RPM based distros run by enterpises are the worst. I was happier with Slackware than Fedora. 🀣 I only use those when work forces me too and after the CentOS and SLES fiascos - F that noise. I'll only recommend debian for work servers unless there are STIG/FedRAMP security requirements and then it's begrudgingly over to Ubuntu.

    When work isn't in the way: EndeavourOS on my desktop, Debian on my servers, and debian/alpine for my containers or better yet; golang and scratch.

    Im using Debian but I’m definitely at the end of the downward path of the first spike

    [–] Addv4@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

    After running arch for a long time, I just installed the sway community edition of endeavoros on all my machines. It works well, while allowing me to use tiling without having a ton of configuration time.

    [–] FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

    Fedora Silverblue. My version of "mount stupid" (or "valley of despair") probably.

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

    Ubuntu: they tell you its easy, but in fact is a huge pain in the ass and breaks. Last two installs for projects I was working on were broken out of the box.

    I remember trying Ubuntu 4 and wondering what the fuss was about. It IS the despair. Nice fonts and colors though.

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago

    Arch. After every update I check what broke. And then discover things I forgot to check.

    I am still not sure if it's already safe to upgrade VirtualBox and iio-sensor-proxy, but I am too lazy to just downgrade them yet again.

    So I just...

    IgnorePkg   = iio-sensor-proxy # Issues in Wayland after suspend
    IgnorePkg   = virtualbox virtualbox-host-modules-lts virtualbox-host-dkms virtualbox-guest-iso # Segfault in 7.2.x, reverted to 7.1.8 - see sys-management-log.txt entry 2025-08-29
    

    If you're curious about the log entries:

    2025-07-06:
            downgraded iio-sensor-proxy to 3.6-1 as 3.7 caused issues after suspending
            added iio-sensor-proxy to IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf
    
    2025-08-29:
            downgraded virtualbox packages to 7.1.8 as 7.2.x was broken (segfault)
            installed linux-lts-headers as the downgraded virtualbox suddenly wanted that
            removed and reinstalled related packages a couple of times (virtualbox-host-modules-lts, virtualbox-host-modules-arch, virtualbox-host-dkms), as well as switching between linux-lts and linux. Hopefully that didn't create any brand new funny business.
            I want to die
            added IgnorePkg   = virtualbox virtualbox-host-modules-lts virtualbox-host-dkms virtualbox-guest-iso to /etc/pacman.conf
    

    I recommend writing some documentation about your system. My Manjaro install became a total unknown mess after a while. I know I had to create some symlinks at some point to fix something, something something custom "XDG_CONFIG_HOME" dir with separate theme to un-break Cisco Packet Tracer on dark theme, edited startup script for Packet Tracer.
    On one Ubuntu VM I edited a bunch of config files that I didn't remember so it was just don't touch it while it works.

    But hey, I feel better after knowing that during high school our internet was down for weeks because something broke on main proxy server and nobody had documentation for the 2 decades old backup server, including the password, so it just ended up running in a "don't touch it" mode, except that it also limited download speed on unknown PCs (based on MAC) to something like 32Kbps, which after 20 years meant nearly any PC so the solution was to copy MACs from basically ewaste.

    Anyway... write documentation for what you do.

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