None of the variations of "woke" have ever been a bad thing to be.
Off My Chest
RULES:
I am looking for mods!
1. The "good" part of our community means we are pro-empathy and anti-harassment. However, we don't intend to make this a "safe space" where everyone has to be a saint. Sh*t happens, and life is messy. That's why we get things off our chests.
2. Bigotry is not allowed. That includes racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, and religiophobia. (If you want to vent about religion, that's fine; but religion is not inherently evil.)
3. Frustrated, venting, or angry posts are still welcome.
4. Posts and comments that bait, threaten, or incite harassment are not allowed.
5. If anyone offers mental, medical, or professional advice here, please remember to take it with a grain of salt. Seek out real professionals if needed.
6. Please put NSFW behind NSFW tags.
Calling people "kind" just didn't have the same sting to it.
Indeed. Woke is anti-oppression and the system of oppression wants you to go back to sleep.
Charlie actually had tons of examples of why woke is evil. They all happen to be strawmen and fictitious, but he was never short of examples.
Honestly I’ve resorted to asking them to define “woke” and then break it down and ask them which “woke” attribute they’re against. They usually shut up and go away as, I hope, they realize on some level how stupid they sound saying they’re against basic human decency and rights.
Crusties spending decades bemoaning the decline of respect and manners among the yoof, suddenly the switcheroo and they now bemoan the yoof for having respect and manners.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. A lot of older people are telling me they learned about Kirk today from the news. American News Media^TM^ are actively whitewashing him, just look up how they're talking about him on CNN, CBS, MSNBC, etc. They're making him seem like a political icon to GenZ/Gen alpha who likes to debate and "play devils advocate", instead of the architect of his own demise.
Charlie said empathy is for cucks. MFW your mom spits on his legacy
Charlie also didn't believe in gun control, so he's gotta be okay with what happened. I don't know how he'd feel about OP's mom disrespecting him like that.
Wonder if she's sad about the school shooting that happened right after.
Remember the public outcry when couple of Dems got shot? Me neither
Or the Denver shooting on the same day. ZERO COVERAGE.
Sorry to hear your mother is toxic and unintelligent.
Your mom's a fucking moron
I would have been laughing in her face for saying something so fucking stupid to me. It’s what I do to my dumb ass mom
Facts don't matter to someone like this. She's having emotions. That's the level you need to work on. She probably feels threatened, and like her in-group is under attack. You'd need to get her to see you as in-group before she'll listen.
We're all emotional creatures, but some people seem exclusively so.
You should be pissed at her for failing to agree with you that Charlie Kirk was a nazi piece of shit who had it coming.
Should Nazis be shot?
Does the space pope wear a hat?
Is the space pope reptilian?
Are reptiles Catholics?
Is the space Vatican hiding the Illuminati?
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer: Yeah.
Oh dont worry. EVERYONE irl i know is freaking out over this. I just ask. What about the 3 children that were shot in Denver? Do they not matter compared to this person?
These are the same people that asked why I didn't care when James Dobson kicked it. Horrible human.
The media is so damn bought and paid for i cant believe they cant see it.
Then she was like “no no no you got it all wrong he was giving a speech when someone asked him if more people die from gang shootings or school shootings, then he was shot” even though the thing I was talking about was from 2023.
Conservatives have absolutely no long term memory. They're completely ignorant of any history that doesn't prove their immediate point.
They changed Charlies pronouns on Wikipedia to was/were.
He spoke out against the woke people... Ugh.
"Let’s get something straight: if being woke means caring about the well-being of others, challenging systems of oppression, and striving to make the world a kinder place, then we are unapologetically woke. Let the critics sneer. Let them turn “woke” into a punchline. Their disdain for compassion only underscores the necessity of staying true to its core values."
https://thezeitgeistonline.substack.com/p/we-will-always-be-proudly-woke-if
From this story it sounds lile your mom is both an idiot and a bad person. Sorry you have to deal with that.
Your mum is a fascist. Ask her if she'd have voted for Hitler during the Holocaust.
Her answer is probably denial.
Ask her if she would have voted for Netanyahu killing Gaza kids in a holocaust 2.0.
She'll prolly deny saying it's a different thing. She needs to be taken to a mass grave and see the actual skulls, the rotting bodies, to see the impact of her wretched hatred.
Sorry about your mum. Have my remote empathy and compassion
Good. You shouldn’t have sympathy for fascists.
Hey internet stranger. That sucks. You are a good person and sorry you have to be in this situation.
Tell her to fuck off honestly.
I wish I did before mine died a couple weeks ago. I missed the chance.
At least you can agree now that there was a good moment in his life, too.
I got ostracized and banned from a discord server for expressing exactly what you did. People are so caught up in the fact he got shot that they're not willing to look at the bigger picture of who he was and the horrible shit he is responsible for.
Exactly it's like all context goes out the window and people are straight up denying the gross shit he said over the years
Such a good point. My family has been having the conversation about why this is suddenly becoming a thing , more than other murders, and clearly we haven’t been paying attention to the toxic culture of hatred, divisiveness, outrage. I suppose he had the right to his opinion but we’d all be better off if we didn’t listen to it. Anyway, the Wikipedia entry paints him as a vile human being who helped stoke the flames of our society causing harm to many. I’ll have empathy for his family’s loss but the world seems better off
It’s ok some people are dumb. I have family members that funcking stupid.
I'm so sorry your mum isn't able to give your feelings the space and respect they deserve. You're completely right. And fact is undeniable, he didn't deserve anything, other than what he advocated for all his life. Also your mum is probably just grieving or feeling socialitically pressured to grieve. How your mum is feeling can be entirely separated from the person she's feeling that for. Don't address the person she's grieving but maybe you can offer her kindness for her feelings, which, I'm assuming would be adulting beyond your developed years. Put clear boundaries down that you aren't changing your opinion on the subject, nor do you want to speak of it, but you care about how she feels. Because people's feelings matter, regardless of whether they're perceived by others as being about unreasonable things, and maybe that will help her learn to be more emotionally supportive, at very least, it'll set a good boundary for you and how you expect her to treat your feelings in future. My mum is a bit like yours, I've never found a good balance, and I can barely speak to her, and I've had many many years of no contact at all, it's hard to go through, I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but sometimes that's the path you end up on, after exhausting all options available at the time. I hope you're able to find a way to co-exist, more peacefully than I was able.
Another family member lost to fox news propaganda
Did you mean blanking or blocking?
Hit her with all the memes of his quotes.