I am so happy to see my little luxembourg oppose this authoritarian power grab.
this post was submitted on 17 Sep 2025
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I am surprised by Sweden and Denmark being in favor.
They've been reverting a lot of that Nordic socialism due to the usual anti-immigrant rhetoric
And a right wing government here in Sweden relying on a far right party to stay in power, all in favor of heavy surveillance
Social democracy, not socialism
I‘m not surprised in the slightest given who governs these countries nowadays. They‘re far more right than your average EU country.
Weirdly, social democrat Ylva Johansson proposed the first chat control bill.
https://sv.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Control
I don't think it's fair to blame the right in this case.
In the end of the day it‘s the wealthy & powerful VS us. You are also not a socialist if you propose something like this. Simple as.
Yes I agree. I suspect they were tricked by some higher ups in EU to put the bill forwards as being a socialist idea, selling it to a wider crowd.
afaik denmark isn't just in favor, but they're also responsible for pushing the legislation higher on the agenda after it was dropped last time.
i think it's because the current ruling coalition consists of the "social democrat party" (actually just red flavored populist centerish party) in an alliance with the "moderate party" (centrist flavored center-right wing party) and the liberal (as in libertarianism) party (center-right/right/conservative party), so basically denmark has been under a quite conservative government lately, despite the PM selling the coalition as "across the center"
Norway isn’t on this map
Norway is not EU
Ima be honest, things don't look good. Europe is our last hope before this shit comes over to America
It already has yo, just on a state level.
Meshtastic is not included in chat control, right?
(Inb4 they ban that too lol)
The wildest part of this to me is the politicians exempting themselves. It may be different in Europe, but in the US, the politicians are often the child predators this legislation claims to protect against.
The politicians claim "professional secrecy", but shouldn't you be increasingly auditable the more power you are given. Private individuals should have an expectation of privacy. Politicians, and those with power and influence should live in the open to protect from abuses of that power.
There is definitely an amount of valid secrecy in positions of power, half of politics would collapse if they couldnt corroborate their eggs in order in their coop. With regards to authority that defines what should be publicly auditable, it's rather a chicken and egg situation.
Before I hatch any more puns, generally politician's privacy at work, or anything related to their position << civilian privacy should be definitely the case. I do like the idea.
isn't the september 12 deadline over
That was for tabling the vote, actual vote is happening on the 14th of October
oh shit so chat control will happen
if you have trust in EUs checks and balances, it can still be stopped at one point or two, including because it is illegal according to EU laws
What did it revert from?
Opposing
Fuuuuck. This sucks
How does this work is it a majority of MEPs form te decision of the entire country?
I wrote to mine and one came back that they were monitoring it but that child safety comes first. The other emphasised child safety but called out that this is not fit for purpose.