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[–] Mpeach45@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Screw this idiot pearl clutcher who didn’t vote strategically.

Doing more harm than good.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That's not what happened.

Hong was a leading voice in the "uninstructed" vote in the primary, not the general. It was purely sending a message.

[–] xyzzy@lemmy.today 6 points 3 weeks ago

Apparently few people ever bother to read the article before firing off their uniformed opinion. This was during the primary. If Biden or the party had listened to this protest vote, we might not be in the disaster we're in right now. What it did do was reveal how soft his support was among certain groups of voters, particularly progressives.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is Amerika in 2024. You aren't allowed to do anything with your speech other than what the party establishment allows.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah it's not strategic voting if the strategy when gamed out results in an L

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Ahh yes the "voters should have STFU and got in line for the genocide candidate" crowd seems to be out in full force.

There is one critique to come to from the 2024 election: Harris/Buden needed to have done better.

This group gave her a path to doing better; Harris chose not to take it. That's on Harris, not the uncommitted/undecided movement. AND, if you are blaming voters at this point, you are the very problem that produces the results of now multiple Trump victories when he was one of the most easily defeatable candidates of all time.

Putting it on voters, not candidates, to change allows candidates to maintain highly unelectable positions: the primaries are when voters correct candidates as to where the party is at. The candidates, in this case Harris and Biden, chose not to listen to the voters.

There was nothing "strategic" about supporting a pro genocide candidate when the act of being pro genocide was clearly to preclude their ability to win the election. The most "strategic" thing to have done in that moment was to do exactly what this organizer did: Organize a protest vote and try and move the candidate.

And if in 2025 you haven't learned this lesson, keep your wrong headed approach to Democratic party politics to yourself. You cost us 2024 and if that view of strategy, the Democratic party will win nothing of substance in the future.