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[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The bald Monk lady wasn’t particularly popular as a casting choice IIRC and this implies that Romani people can’t have a pale complexion which isn’t true at all.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I don't know this one but it looks like the bald monk lady was supposed to be Tibetan, not Romani? She's definitely not Tibetan.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

She's a recast of an Orientalist character because they decided that was less problematic than the Orientalism

But they still did the rest of the Orientalism and Wong was the best part of the movie so...

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They made her Celtic...

Not that any of that matters. She was ok on the movie, so very few people complained and no studio amplified the race-rage to cover up for the people complaining that the movie sucks.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

A Celt with a shaved head wearing Asian robes, living in a Tibetan monastery that Dr. Strange reaches after backpacking through Asia looking for spiritual enlightenment lol

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They can teleport anywhere in the word at will. If anything, they should have been more diverse.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sure. Doesn't stop it from being blatant Orientalism on screen while not even bothering to cast an Asian person for the role.

At least give her a knot tattoo or something, damn, that's just some bald white lady that you made vague and irrelevant Druidic implications about otherwise.

It'd have been really cool if they had each sorcerer using distinct styles based on different traditional mysticisms but maybe that's a bit much to expect of Disney.

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Somehow, it's more normal than everybody in a group that recruits people from all over the world for tens of thousands of years having the same ethnicity...

But I understand if you are complaining it's different from the comics. As I said, it doesn't matter.

No, I'm saying what they did was still blatant Orientalism they just wouldn't even let an Asian actor have the leading part.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I mentioned two separate characters in my comment, the Tibetan monk first, and the second being the Romani character. I’m not sure how that was unclear.

[–] reev@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

I think the "this" in "this implies" can read as referring to the casting choice for the tibetan monk, not to the meme itself.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It was unclear because you switched topic mid sentence without even using a comma. We ain't mind readers.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 1 points 1 week ago

While that would have made it more explicit yes, it wasn't that hard to figure out they were talking about two different characters when you understand that the bald monk wasn't labelled romani

[–] 13igTyme@piefed.social 39 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I saw something that it only works if the character was in a book that hasn't had a movie adaptation yet. In the Shawshank Redemption, "Red" was originally a white irishman. But because bigots don't read books, it didn't upset anyone when Morgan Freeman played him.

[–] RaoulDuke@piefed.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 week ago

I love that they throw in the “because I’m Irish” in the movie.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know I don't care but it ever only happens one way. If they just choose the best person for the role there should be some white people who are best. And I don't mean these from comic books. I mean fables and tales like the little mermaid is a white or black Mulan a none polynesian Muai. Or how about race switching a real person like an Asian playing Roasa Parks. Since they did get a black woman to play Anne Boleyn who was a real person.

And if we want to represent more diverse people in the film industry whey retell the same stories, it seems kind of odd to just swap a character and say diversity. Why not tell some of their stories.

[–] Upperhand@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Uhh, off the top of my head, Nick Fury was white, but Jackson was awesome, and no one wants anyone else to have that role. kingpins is white but Michael Clarke Duncan fucking rocked that shit. Heimdell was Idris Elba, and he was awesome in that part. Zendaya, as mj was the best mj so far. I'm sure there's more, so maybe stop rage baiting...

[–] protist@mander.xyz 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't the point of this meme to mock the people who are enraged?

Some kind of selective rage even

[–] Delusions@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Actually Nick fury was black in ultimate universe before the movies and drawn to look like Sam Jackson on purpose

[–] hypna@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Rage bait is the life blood of social media.... I should go read a book

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Zendaya is overrated

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

It really do be like that.

A lot. No seriously like an alarming amount of "a lot"

[–] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In case anyone else was wondering...

  1. Tonto
  2. Ra's al Ghul
  3. The Ancient One
  4. Scarlet Witch
  5. The Little Mermaid
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yeah, has anyone considered that people simply weren't familiar with the source material for the rest of these?

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago

Role. Actor.

Role. Actor.

Role. Actor.

Role. Actor.

Role. Actor.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

As I said before:

They hate live action Ariel because she's "ugly."

And that is so much worse. Especially when people see nothing wrong with that statement.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Imagine being so vain that you get angry that a movie role is played by someone that you think is ugly.

How pathetic.

I'm not sure if that's worse than being a racist piece of shit about it, but it can't be far behind.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well that's just it; it's tied up in racism. They're calling Ariel ugly because she's an African American woman.

I mean... I'm fine with people complaining about actors not fitting roles, but that's not the case here.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh. Was my comment too subtle?

I'll clarify: if anyone actually thinks that an actor playing a role is ugly, and gets mad about it, that's pathetic. But we all know why their calling her "ugly" don't we?

And if that's not blatant enough: they're calling her ugly because she's black, not because she's unattractive. And I don't mean to imply she's unattractive by this, just that her attractiveness isn't the actual problem.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's especially ridiculous because:

  • A: Halle Bailey's painfully gorgeous

  • B: She's got this... How do I describe it? 'Mythologic' look? Like she's how I'd picture a siren out of The Odyssey or something like that.

Again, I'm all for actors matching their characters, and soulless 'diversity' casting just for the veneer of inclusivity can be less than ideal, but that's not close to the case here. The rage around Ariel was just totally absurd (and absolutely racist).

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

I don't want to comment prematurely about her looks. I haven't seen the movie, I don't know how well she played the role, and I don't believe I've seen a lot from that actor, so I have no basis by which I can create an opinion either way.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can I choose to be mad about all of them?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Consistency is good, provided the reason for being mad is valid.

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I’m mad that billionaires have used identity politics to stop taxing the rich, I’m mad that center left parties are only able to talk about identity pol & handouts, without taxing the rich, I’m mad that time and time again the means of production is shackled, I’m mad that people keep falling for right wing trickle down economics.

[–] eatCasserole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Imagine getting mad because a black girl played a mermaid in a Disney movie.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Show me a tale from another country where they put in a white person. The little Mermaid is a Danish tale.

[–] JandroDelSol@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

iirc the live action little mermaid tales place in the carribean, not denmark

[–] GreyPilgrim@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

This isn’t political, it’s just a comment on the acting and entertainment industry as being racist.