Inspiration towards a life more aligned with solarpunk values : solarpunk

[–] wolfyvegan@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Growing food and addressing deforestation and climate change with like-minded neighbours, while consuming as little as possible from the commercial cesspools of the world, is what I consider a realistic approach to solarpunk, at least for me. I've not found long-term neighbours who share the same goals, but I've met some cool people, and I continue to plant fruit trees and find ways to use natural materials from the forest rather than buying something. I cannot manufacture electronics or forge steel tools, but otherwise, in the long term, I could pretty much live off of the land with the help of the occasional volunteer who has construction experience.

Living vegan (choosing total liberation for all sentient beings) and refusing to accept the cyberpunk dystopian world of non-free software are also major aspects for me; solarpunk is anti-oppression. Many people seem to miss that part, but to me it is crucial, and it is what makes solarpunk appealing and sets it apart.

I'm not so optimistic about new energy technologies, but old-fashioned water-wheels and such are still just as viable as ever, and in the long term, I foresee a return to (modernised/improved versions of) such technologies being useful.

As other commenters have pointed out, community is an important aspect of solarpunk, and it seems like it needs to be a major aspect of any anarchist movement, as "we" are greatly outnumbered by those who support the status quo, and we will need to support each other in order to achieve a lasting cultural shift on even the local level. There are already some vegan intentional communities and regenerative neighbourhood projects and food forest projects and even explicitly solarpunk communities making an effort to bring about a more ethical and sustainable world, and anyone looking into aligning their lifestyle with solarpunk values might consider joining one or starting their own when life in the city reveals itself to be untenable.

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 21 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am writing this from an extremely privileged position, I know this. But... I have fairly recently found myself in a sort of mid-life crisis (well ahead of its time, mind you, I'm only in my mid-30s), and the origin is the fact that I've so far for the most part constructed my life to fit nicely into the societal mold, at least when it comes to participating in the modern workforce. I was initially very well-adjusted to this world - I easily got good grades in school and was readily admitted to the top engineering university in my country, and have since both worked as a management consultant for some time (as many graduates from this university tend to do) and have later taken a PhD in a STEM-field. Now I'm completely disillusioned, because I am not spending my time in a way that feels useful. I am not employing my acquired skills in a way that actually benefits the world or even my local community. My current job is within renewable energy, so in theory my efforts could go towards something good eventually, but I am but a small cog in a big machine that might not even succeed at what we are trying to do, and as with any other big corporation (and I saw quite a few examples of this when I worked as a consultant), there is so... much.... waste. I could be spending my time on much smaller, but more directly impactful (and local) endeavors.

So despite hating lock-in in other areas of my life (I have for example spent the last three years ridding myself of all big tech dependencies), I let myself get fooled into one of the bigger lock-ins the modern world has to offer: being a salaried person in the hyper-consumption economy. This realization, that I have in the short term few options to escape the need to have a steady income, is what has dawned on me in the last six months or so. This need keeps me from spending my time in the way I actually want to, because what I actually want to do are things I cannot make much money of (or would not want to make money of, as it would difficult to do so without employing the same exploitative lock-in tactics we see all around us). So getting out of this lock-in is my top priority now. It is well-aligned with solarpunk ideals, because it first and foremost means getting my consumption under control at a well-below average level. While my spending habits are already somewhat under control, in the sense that I have few recurring expenses, I've been haphazardly spending money on items I have convinced myself that I needed, and often bought new instead of used. Looking back at the list of purchases, I am at least glad that there are no stupid trend-purchases, and nothing I've not actually used. We're talking proper cookware, high-quality hiking equipment (backpacks and a good tent), stuff that should last me a while - I can't stand things that easily breaks and needs replacement well before it should. And I am also glad I don't have an insatiable desire for more - I now bought almost all I wanted that I deferred to later as a PhD student, and I feel content - so stopping now should not be much of an issue. I'm now very focused on paying off debt - car loan first (yeah, I know...) and then my student loan. I think I'll be done in about six months. I luckily have no insane mortgage going on - paying rent for the time being, but that also leaves me very flexible for the future changes I am planning.

I've been doing some reading on this whole FIRE (Financially Independent, Retire Early) movement lately as a part of this. I used to scoff at this, partly because I misunderstood what it is about. I thought this was people who would live under self-imposed austerity for ten years to be able to play golf for the rest of their lives, and for some of them it is. The subreddit I stumbled into a long time ago when I first learned of it (and before I got my epiphany) was full of people obsessing over "their number" and trying to optimize strategies to win at the lottery (i.e. stock market). But it's not austerity that (at least the OG FIRE-people) advocate for - it is simply cutting out a bunch of needless excess from your life that allows you to accumulate enough wealth over a much shorter period of time than it would usually take to be able to "retire". I put that in quotation marks, because as I mentioned above, I thought retiring early was all about playing golf and taking cruise ship vacations much earlier than you usually would. But retiring to these people really mean being free from the shackles of the salaried man. I too want that... So while I doubt I can achieve full flexibility in life early (and I don't think I have the fortitude to keep going as now for ten years to achieve this), I instead aim to be in a good position to start something for myself or with only a couple of friends/co-workers I enjoy working with that gives sufficient income to get by and enough time for other activities. I have nothing concrete planned for this yet, except a few untried ideas (that I have some potential partners for), and I anticipate I need to keep going in my current (or similar) work for another two years or so until I have the flexibility to have a go at this.

I mentioned that I have been moving towards solarpunk ideals for some time (albeit slowly), and from the above it doesn't really sound like that. What I meant by this, is that I've done things in other areas of my life that I believe to be well-aligned. One major way is through becoming engaged in the privacy community several years back, and through that the free and open source movement (this is what lead me to Lemmy, and then eventually to this instance where I've been lurking for some time). Something that attracts me to solarpunk is that it is not simply a "back to the stone ages"-approach to sustainable living, but incorporates technology in a sustainable and fair way. As a trained technologist/scientist and recovering Technology Optimist™ I yearn not for the "good old days", but as Corey Doctorow would say, the "good new days", where we can take advantage of the ingenuity of scientific discovery and technological advancement in a way that is a net benefit for everyone, and that is not detrimental to the health of the ecosystem we rely on. I think FOSS is central in a solarpunk future, as it enables us to use technology on our own terms instead of some corporation's whose ideals are far from aligned with yourself, the community or the world at large. In this area I have made big strides the last years (having last year gotten rid of my Facebook, Apple, Google and Microsoft accounts, I only recently got rid of LinkedIn - I hung onto it due to some corporate FOMO of not being able to get my next salaried position... upon retrospection, I realized I had never gotten ANYTHING useful out of being on LinkedIn, and it has turned into one of the most unhinged places on the internet). I have at the same time begun to recover from the learned helplessness I've picked up from previously using Apple-products. I feel much more confident that I can solve things myself (not just in computing), and I've to a larger degree shifted from being a pure consumer to being able to create something as well.

One of the many things I bought (ref above) was a 3D-printer, and there are few times I have felt as solarpunk as when I am working on my balcony garden (another area I've made good progress the last 4 or so years) while my 3D-printer is printing (self-designed in FreeCAD) parts for some gardening equipment, followed by a quick harvest session of arugula and tomatoes that goes on my freshly baked homemade bread.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Welcome! Here’s to the “good new days.” I like the solarpunk framing because it drops some of the historical baggage associated with anarchism (and anti-anarchist propaganda) but still has a strong focus on building solutions to purpose while maintaining ideals that I think are fundamental to the kind of world we want to live in including self-autonomy, ecological balance, mutual aid, and global cooperation. It dares us to say “okay how do we accomplish this?” and strike out to actually try one step at a time with an eye always looking towards collective human flourishing.

Like anarchism it seems to adopt a “let’s just build a better version to meet all our needs and the existing version, built on many generations of snowballed corruption and bad intentions, will fade” perspective which will continue to face resistance from existing power structures but will eventually prevail. It’s a difficult project from where we perch now, but it’s one that feels worth putting time and effort into.

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Welcome! Here’s to the “good new days.” Thanks!

I like the solarpunk framing because it drops some of the historical baggage associated with anarchism (and anti-anarchist propaganda) but still has a strong focus on building solutions to purpose while maintaining ideals that I think are fundamental to the kind of world we want to live in including self-autonomy, ecological balance, mutual aid, and global cooperation. It dares us to say “okay how do we accomplish this?” and strike out to actually try one step at a time with an eye always looking towards collective human flourishing.

I gotta admit that I've fallen for the anti-anarchist propaganda, because I've for a very long time equated anarchists with either clueless, immature punk-rockers or conflated them with these liberalist people (private police force for the people.. who can afford it). I understand now that it is not an accurate picture of it at all. This idea of grassroots emergence is beautiful, and I believe a prerequisite for a truly resilient way of life. I still know little of any anarchist theory though, but I would want to read up on it to understand better.

Like anarchism it seems to adopt a “let’s just build a better version to meet all our needs and the existing version, built on many generations of snowballed corruption and bad intentions, will fade” perspective which will continue to face resistance from existing power structures but will eventually prevail. It’s a difficult project from where we perch now, but it’s one that feels worth putting time and effort into.

I like this perspective. I really don't like the prospects of a big, sudden revolution. Even though the intentions behind a revolution are good, i.e. I can fully stand behind the ideals driving it, I think these things tend to leave major power vacuums that are filled in very unpredictable ways by people very adept at exploiting such situations.

But I also think that the rate of change towards this "better version to meet all our needs" is way too slow, and I am uncertain how we accelerate it through just building this alternative world. I wonder if we just end up with a subculture on the fringes of society that the vast majority are clueless about. But we should at least be trying to live that ourselves and at the very least be a good example for others to follow. "Be the change you want to see" and whatnot. I don't know, it's still new to me...

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I enjoy reading theory so I do (my partner is a philosopher for work) but I actually don’t think it’s super necessary. This is one reason I like the solarpunk framing. The principal is very simple, everything we do both individually and collectively should be in balance with the environment. We should exercise the bit of us that is often atrophied living under a liberal bureaucratic way of organizing where we 1) notice things our communities could use and 2) come up with ways to achieve them. I’ve actually been working on a kids coloring book along these lines where it offers worksheet pages for kids along this theme. For ex. search your neighborhood for 3 things that need to be fixed (presented a bit like a scavenger hunt). What are some ways we could accomplish this? I think if more of us treated our surroundings as somewhat more self-determined like this we would be better primed to attack the bigger things too.

Definitely agree that the parallel social structures approach thing is only realistic to a certain point. There are things like power distribution to dense areas and water distribution to most people that would require a major and collaborative shift (there are only so many waterways). And agreed it all feels too slow, and would be (is already) too slow for many. Unfortunately I think this is the nature of the beast and we won’t arrive at the kind of transformation we need without a true transformation in how people think about their place in society and a refocusing of our priorities towards sustainability and cooperation. This just is a much slower and difficult sort of process than getting angry people to follow a well spoken dictator (which is fast but not transformative in the right ways).

Anyway I think the things you’re already doing with your family are already helping contribute to this mindset and I’m optimistic that it matters. Perhaps too optimistic but I think some blind hope is important when you’re between a rock and a hard place and the solarpunk dreamers are taking the first important step; imagining something better.

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 week ago

I’ve actually been working on a kids coloring book along these lines where it offers worksheet pages for kids along this theme. For ex. search your neighborhood for 3 things that need to be fixed (presented a bit like a scavenger hunt). What are some ways we could accomplish this? I think if more of us treated our surroundings as somewhat more self-determined like this we would be better primed to attack the bigger things too.

Nice, way to go! I think kids these days have enough bad influence from society, so we need them to be exposed to more of this good stuff.

Anyway I think the things you’re already doing with your family are already helping contribute to this mindset and I’m optimistic that it matters. Perhaps too optimistic but I think some blind hope is important when you’re between a rock and a hard place and the solarpunk dreamers are taking the first important step; imagining something better.

Where are all the optimistic HBO dramas showing what kind of future we should strive for? :(

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Revolution doesn't have to be violent. We do need a revolution, but I agree that violent revolution leaves a power vacuum any shithead can fill. We desperately need a grass roots, community based, cultural revolution though. One that firmly opposes our current consumerist culture.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was trying to make something like this, and you guys beat me to it! Bravo! Now what? How do we achieve this? Is there a roadmap? I know I want to make enough passive income, or at least hoard enough money to at least cover the minimum monthly bills. The rest I can try to manufacture myself I suppose?

[–] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This thread has some nice posts on how to live "more solarpunk" by yourself, but IMHO solarpunk is more than that. Finding/founding and participating in all kinds of neighborly/local groups is another big factor which plays a big role in resilience. Community gardens, people's kitchens, cultural groups etc. Community is important. Can also be connecting to your neighbors in other ways.

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 weeks ago

You are absolutely correct! I want to find such communities myself, but I think that a lot of this has to be built since we are living in a time when such communities are far and few between.

The stuff that I'm meaning to participate in more going forward:

There's a "local" makerspace I want to visit, but it is so far away that I've yet to go there. But I want to at least check it out, and talk with the people there. It's a too expensive membership considering how far away it is, as I will not be able to utilize it much.
I went to my local library for the first time this week! I plan to go more often, and I know the host some events from time to time that looks interesting.
There is a community farm nearby - I tried to join that last year, but I had a very difficult time participating as expected next to my job. Due to lack of skills and experience, I was unable to just start doing things on my own schedule and needed to join up whenever there were common sessions - but those were usually too early for me to get home from work to join. I also missed out on several harvest sessions. This is something I would love to rejoin if I manage to get my work life more flexible again.
There seems to be not much going on in my neighborhood though, apart from religious stuff (I am not religious). But there certainly is room to join up more with my neighbors.

[–] Vizzerdrix@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

It wasn't "solarpunk" at the time, but I am vegetarian now for 15 years ish (since my early 20s). I do think better would be to go vegan and I have been trying to reduce dairy, but it's a bit tricky since a) we also have a small daughter and nutrition is such a complex topic for her as well and b) my wife while having gone veggie due to meeting me is not on board with giving up cheese. It is something I want to tackle more in the future though. I've been mostly motivated by animal suffering and factory farming initially, but ecologically it just makes so much sense as well for climate impact, space usage, water usage, etc.

A small solarpunk thing that I am doing now is choosing regional insect friendly plants for my garden and also learning more about ecological aspects there.

Also while kinda ineffectual, I started editing Wikipedia. IMO shared knowledge building like that is also very solarpunk. It's also some "direct action" that is suitable for a lazy couch sitter like me who struggles to do "practice" otherwise.

Also very much just a point of privilege on my side, but we did manage to build a house and I have literal solar panels on my roof. Not very punk, but very solar wow.

[–] mapleseedfall@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i really like the wiki contributing idea. Do you think its worth creating a local wiki for local info or better to contribute to a bigger wiki?

[–] Vizzerdrix@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Mhm I just contribute to the Wikipedia... that one I feel is super worthwhile - it actually has been under heavy criticism by the US right lately, because they only want their version of "truth" to be the only one represented. Obv inconvenient for the powers that be, if there is freely available information that they can't control. I'm not contributing on any hot topic though (mainly music/bands) - but I still feel like everything that you can find on Wikipedia strengthens its position as a tool that people go to for info.

A local wiki also sounds cool, but I have no idea what I would contribute there.

[–] octobersun@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fully agree on the wiki editing. I think of it as provisioning the knowledge commons, i.e. knowledge commoning. Sharing good info is very important. IMO a community wiki (local or not, could be an online community) is just as good as editing Wikipedia. Even just posting what you know on your own blog/wiki/digital garden is valuable. One of the most visited pages on my personal site is my notes on how I fixed some crappy cat feeder, not going to foment a revolution but presumably it's helping people to fix theirs too and stopping some e-waste.

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

One of the most visited pages on my personal site is my notes on how I fixed some crappy cat feeder, not going to foment a revolution but presumably it’s helping people to fix theirs too and stopping some e-waste.

I love this!

[–] thorwiththehammer@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It wasn’t “solarpunk” at the time, but I am vegetarian now for 15 years ish (since my early 20s). I do think better would be to go vegan and I have been trying to reduce dairy

I cut out landbased meat almost 8 years ago now (I still eat fish, and I do plan on continuing, but not farmed fish). I approached it from a animal welfare and environmental impact vantage point, and started by cutting out any "uninspired meat usage". By that I mean whenever I made some kind of stew, instead of putting in a lump of ground beef, I would use beans instead. Same when I had tacos - the flavor was in the seasoning anyway.

I am very much on the dairy train still though, and I don't have the same kind of restrictions holding me back from cutting this out. I have picked up baking again recently, and I plan to experiment more with plant based spreads going forward.

A small solarpunk thing that I am doing now is choosing regional insect friendly plants for my garden and also learning more about ecological aspects there.

Lovely! Me and my partner intends to spend next year systematically learning about the local ecology. Instead of an expensive vacation as we've done before, we will up our hiking game, and learn to be better foragers (berries and mushroom). The systematic learning includes giving each other presentations about a kind of topic of the week. I think it will be fun and educational.

Also while kinda ineffectual, I started editing Wikipedia. IMO shared knowledge building like that is also very solarpunk. It’s also some “direct action” that is suitable for a lazy couch sitter like me who struggles to do “practice” otherwise.

I've come to a realization that this way of thinking ( i.e. "this is ineffectual") is part of what has kept me back from participating more locally and in smaller things before. I think my (our?) generation has been fooled into believing only large contributions are impactful. Like many other millennials, I've been told that "we can do anything" and "we can save the world though our work" etc. So I went to engineering school and started working for a big company that (at least claims to) tries to solve big problems. The result being that I have overlooked many, much more impactful smaller contributions.

I definitely think agree with you that shared knowledge is very solarpunk, and I commend you for contributing to Wikipedia. I think they have plenty of work to do to counteract the abuse of LLMs these days, so having good people contributing is certainly not "ineffectual". I have not done such direct contributions, but I have recently donated to them.

One of the things that disgusted me in academia was the insane system of journal paywalls. I am proud to have had all my publications made open access, and there are some movements in that direction more broadly (Plan S for example, more and more journals allow for open access publishing - but the cost model is still wack...)

Also very much just a point of privilege on my side, but we did manage to build a house and I have literal solar panels on my roof. Not very punk, but very solar wow.

Local electricity production is very solarpunk! Local resilience is in my opinion a very important foundation of a true solarpunk society.

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