This is literally just almost every terminally online ML lol
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that's why I posted this here lmao
Especially over the past few years, this viewpoint seems to dominate over so many leftist spaces, and I believe it's part of what led to Trump winning the election. I don't particularly like the Democrats either, but so many refuse to vote for anything other than an impossible overnight jump to socialism.
How many would "vote with their dollar" if $==🧨, though? 🤷🏼♂️
The Rapture (or whatever no-effort salvation flavor you prefer) will not be televised.
You forgot to mention both have accelerationists willing to make people's lives worse to hasten the ~~Rapture~~ Revolution.
Comrade, this time it’s really late stage capitalism comrade, trust me comrade. Revolution is imminent, the workers will rise up. / repeat for 150 years.
both have accelerationists
Accelerationism isn't a policy, it's a coping mechanism.
"Actually, I love that things aren't going my way, because it'll all work out in the end" is what you say when you're down bad with no clear hope of recovery.
And complaining about acceleratism is just scapegoating. You're not in this position because a secret cabal of extremists is sabotaging your milquetoast efforts because they think losing harder is good.
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Great take. We must ask ourselves: what happens the day after the revolution?
1rpd/1440=0.00069rpm
Nice.
To idle along nicely, we need to reach about 800 revolutions per minute. So we need to increase our number of revolutions by about x1,100,000
(And I realise now I've inadvertently worked out that if I left my car idling for 24 hours, the engine would go through over 1.1million revolutions. Cool!)
Really, if there is a sudden turning point, where Eat The Rich becomes common thought, how long does it last? Is it over in a few days? Is it a literal class war going on for years? If the bottom 50 decides to take out the top 5, how long can it go on for?
It's all a crab bucket in a crab bucket in a crab bucket in a... aw, fuckit.
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Well if we look at China, Cuba, the USSR, Vietnam, Laos, you get invaded/bombed by America.
But also continue to work really hard, but now your labor goes to bringing yourself and a billion others out of poverty instead of further expanding the power of the bourgeoisie.
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"and if you don't live by MY interpretation of some dead guy's beliefs, you are wrong and are worse than the enemy*
Hate to say it, but I'd argue that this particular leftist sub-group can be ever worse than Christians. At least on paper, Christians are supposed to want to convert sinners and non-believers, and are supposed to work to do outreach to help people explicitly undeserving. The Christian enemy of the devil is effectively an abstract. Yes, there's the anti-lgbt+ bigots, but in my experience they are a minority despite their incessant loudness and overwhelming presence in the public eye.
This particular revolution worshipping sub-group of leftists though? They appear to overwhelmingly just want death and suffering for their "enemies". They have no plans to attempt to convert people and many are actively against even trying.
I can't tell you how much heat I've taken for suggesting that (at best) ignoring all the fuckers that voted for Trump and not trying to find any way to build relationships so you can turn them is a losing strategy.
It makes me sick that so very many people see violent and complete revolution where somehow they never have to deal with opposition voices ever again afterwards (read: purges and re-education camps, ideas I've seen positive unironic support for from this group a shocking amount) as a more viable and desiriable outcome than trying to understand and care for their misguided neighbors and family so they can turn them.
Just because your plan isn't technically genocide due to it falling on lines of political ideology doesn't make it less completely fucked in the head and reprehensible.
If your wishes for the future include "We have to be baddies so we can completely erase the worse baddies from existence and make our utopia" then I strongly suggest you need to reevaluate just about fucking everything in your life and ideals.
That's why they narrowed it to evangelical Christians. There is still your argument that they will try to convert you first, but boy if you don't, it's the same hate. I'd say the leftist hate is at least honest and doesn't try to camouflage it with "love the sinner" lies and cherrypicking from a guide book.
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This may be the worst take I've ever heard tbh
Both sides same horseshoe isn't even a new take
Downvote me father for I have committed bad praxis.
This leftist believes we are already dead and this is hell.
It's hell all the way down.
Zen makes no sense and all the sense simultaneously, the more you look/don't look at it.
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And not a single one is doing anything to actually revolt, just sitting online talking shit on people who are actively doing things because "incrementalism is useless, we need a revolution".
Sorry creating lemmy isn't starting the revolution, getting together a small amount of people online to talk about a parallel societal formation isn't starting a revolution, being civically inactive is not starting a revolution, buying a bunch of guns is not starting a revolution, talking about moving away from corporate tracking tools is not starting a revolution, switching from US to Chinese propaganda is not starting a revolution. As lame as all the gravy seal militias in the US are, they are numerous steps ahead on the starting of a revolution.
Shittiest MadLibs reboot ever.
The Antichrist walks among us, wearing a spray tan and a toupee. We must use our second amendment rights to throw off our oppressors and create the kingdom of Elohim on earth.
What you've got there is a tankie
I consider myself libertarian, but unlike others, I think my political ideal would be terrible to implement overnight. I see libertarianism more as a direction than an end goal, and we should evaluate how far down that path we want to go.
I'm also Christian and don't believe in Rapture. Instead, I think that if Christ's second coming is literal (don't want to get into a theological debate), any changes will be a process. People won't evaporate or whatever, instead they'll be spared in some form from the wider unrest that will end up destroying the "sinners" or whatever. Things just don't happen all at once like that.
I guess for my personal ideal, the closest would be everyone all of a sudden deciding that their rights are important and worth fighting for?
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Well, Marx’ withering away of the state and the rise of Communism was basically the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth.
"A stateless utopia birthed from the continual consolidation of power in a proletariat dictatorship" gives the same vibes as trickle down economics.
Dear God, the Tankies are fundies!
The world is ~~sinful~~ anti-democratic backsliding but we just have to wait until the ~~Second Coming~~ the Election happens when everything will be magically fixed. Any attempt to make actual progress makes you a ~~lukewarm Christian~~ tankie anything less than ~~the Apocolypse~~ the Election (which is definitely fair and free and democratic full of extremely popular and nice politicians) is completely useless. Also consuming certian media or makin certain lifesytle choices is ~~sinful and unchristian~~ makes you a tankie or a rebellious ineffective anarchist or a secret conservative.
so democracy bad?
Hmm... Floating into the sky which is also where a magical land exists with an all knowing, benevolent supreme being or equality and fair treatment for all peoples... Yeah those are the same.
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