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Showerthoughts

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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The most popular seem to be lighthearted clever little truths, hidden in daily life.

Here are some examples to inspire your own showerthoughts:

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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 37 points 6 days ago (4 children)

No. Practice isn't doing the same thing over and over again.

Practice is an iterative process where each time you fail, you learn something new and add it to the process until eventually you find a result that is different.

You're practicing your golf swing because you keep shanking the ball to the right. You don't keep making the same shot over and over agin. You adjust your stance. You adjust your leg positioning. You adjust a hundred little things until you find the combination that gives you the results you want. THAT'S Practice...not just repeating the same action.

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When I get a movement right, I keep repeating it over and over until it's committed to memory. You're saying I could've stopped at the first success? Why did no one tell me earlier?

[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

But do you expect different results when doing that? I think the point of that would be to get the same result every time.

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Nah. Some forms of practice like shooting or bowling or anything where the goal is to do something 10 or 100 times and get a high score are absolutely about doing exactly the same thing over and over again as predictably as possible and the variance of result is the problem.

If you don't like that example, how about chess puzzles?

Certainly between practice sessions you might wisely expose yourself to new ideas, but the idea is the same:

See a position, see the winning strategy / tactic / idea. If you're a student of the woodpecker method, once you do that once, you do it again, exactly the same way, and hope to be faster at it.

These are forms of practice wherein you do the same thing, exactly the same way, and hope to get increasingly better results by honing a skill through repetition without changing anything. its not that you CANT change things sometimes or that you shouldn't, but generally speaking the idea is consistency.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago

Ehh, I get what you’re saying but..that’s iteration, improvement, development

Practice is rehearsing the same move over and over, the phrase “practice like you play” exists for that reason. It is by definition, repetition.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago

Same is not identical.

"I am going to get a drink." - "I'm gonna do the same."

Will the second person now do identical movements to the first one? Will the second person use identical words to order an identical drink?

Or will both of them walk up to the bar and each of them will get some drink they like?


"I'm going to practice golf this weekend." - "Yeah, I'm going to do the same."

Will the second person immitate every movement of the first one? Or are both of them just going to practice golf, one of them maybe on a golf course and the other one on a drive range?

Difference of practice vs insanity is directly related to something within your control vs outside of your control.

[–] JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"If at first you don't succeed, give up and blame the Jews"

watch that get downvoted

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

YOULL GET AN UP VOTE ABD LIKE IT!!!

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What? No it's not when you practice you expect to get better... The results vary greatly.

Also one would practice a variety of things that are completely different from each other not the same thing over and over.

Also Albert Einstein never said that the first recorded use of the phrases is in the 1980s.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah if you miss the target you adjust your aim.

[–] Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, one doesn't continue to shoot without adjusting their aim. If they didn't adjust their aim, but expected different/better results. That could seem like insanity I guess.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Q. How do you get to Carnegie Hall?

A. You get on a plane

[–] paequ2@lemmy.today 73 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Yeah, no. You should be adjusting each cycle when you practice, until you start getting the desired results.

[–] joonazan@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 6 days ago

It depends on what you are practicing. If it involves things out of your control, for instance poker, you definitely shouldn't adjust after every result. In the poker case that leads to not playing well just because you lost one time.

Even in less random things you have to be absolutely sure you found the problem before adjusting.

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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 51 points 1 week ago (7 children)

No.

You're either doing the thing right, and expecting the same result, or you're doing it wrong and then adjusting. Either way, you're not doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (18 children)

If you're practicing the exact same way over and over you're doing something wrong.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone else kind of hate this "definition"? I've been hearing that shit my entire life, and I just can't help but roll my eyes every time.

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

It's terrible, wrong, and out of context. Einstein was talking about quantum mechanics not mental health. He really didn't like that at the quantum level results are random but follow a very spefic probability curve.

He thought quantum mechanics would be able to achive classical physics like results. Where the only uncertainty was because of measurement error.

quantum uncertainty is the most experimentaly proven theory in physics. So even in the context Einstein made the statement he was wrong.

[–] bunchberry@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Putting aside the fact that you cannot "experimentally prove" anything as proof is for mathematics, claiming you can experimentally demonstrate fundamental uncertainty is, to put it bluntly, incoherent. Uncertainty is a negative, it is a statement that there is no underlying cause for something. You cannot empirically demonstrate the absence of an unknown cause.

If you believe in fundamental uncertainty, it would be appropriate to argue in favor of this using something like the principle of parsimony, pointing out the fact that we have no evidence for an underlying cause so we shouldn't believe in one. Claiming that you have "proven" there is no underlying cause is backwards logic. It is like saying you have proven there is no god as opposed to simply saying you lack belief in one. Whatever "proof" you come up with to rule out a particular god, someone could change the definition of that god to get around your "proof."

Einstein, of course, was fully aware of such arguments and acknowledged such a possibility that there may be no cause, but he put forwards his own arguments as to why it leads to logical absurdities to treat the randomness of quantum mechanics as fundamental; it's not merely a problem of randomness, but he showed with a thought experiment involving atomic decay that it forces you to have to reject the very existence of a perspective-independent reality.

There is no academic consensus on how to address Einstein's arguments, and so to claim he's been "proven wrong" is quite a wild claim to make.

"[W]hat is proved by impossibility proofs is lack of imagination." (John Bell)

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

There's a subtile difference in meaning between "proven" and "prove", even though they have the same root.

"Proven" can mean that there's proof for something, but it can also mean "established", "tested", "reliable" or "trustworthy".

You know, as in "time-proven" or "battle-proven".

And quantum mechanics totally fits that description. Sure, there's no mathematical proof for anything outside of maths, but quantum mechanics has proven itself many times over.

(Btw., outside of maths, the word "proof" also means something different than in maths. The word "proof" is also much older than its usage in maths. "Proof" in the context of maths is just as much domain lingo as "daemon" is in the context of Linux. It has its own distinct meaning in the context of mathematics and doesn't mean the same thing outside of that domain.

Same as you don't need an exorcist to get your Linux daemons in line.)

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Einstein wasn't talking about anything at all, since it's a misattribution. Einstein never said that. Someone just stuck Einstein's name in front of their own stupid garbage quote to make it sound smarter.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"Einstein wasn't talking about anything at all, since it's a misattribution. Einstein never said that. Someone just stuck Einstein's name in front of their own stupid garbage quote to make it sound smarter." - Einstein, 2025

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

"That's exactly how to do that!" - Gandalf

[–] MightBeAlpharius@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (14 children)

Idk about that...

When you practice something, you're actively changing your technique to elicit better results. You're not making huge changes, but rather a series of miniscule ones that add up.

For instance, I could sit down with a flute and a piece of music, and play it decently. It wouldn't be great, but it wouldn't be terrible. If I play it the same way every time, it's always going to sound decent - but it's always going to have the same wrong notes, the same rushed passages, the same intonation issues... If I practice it, I can make changes over time that fix those things. I can fix my fingerings, even out the rushed bits, adjust my intonation... But then I wouldn't be doing the same thing anymore, I'd be doing something slightly different.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Did Einstein actually say that? Even if he did, he wasn't a psychologist. Plus, scientists recreate experiments all the time, literally doing as close to the same thing as possible and often getting different results.

[–] mxeff@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"There is no substantive evidence that Einstein wrote or spoke the statement above. It is listed within a section called “Misattributed to Einstein” in the comprehensive reference “The Ultimate Quotable Einstein” from Princeton University Press."

So No. I also was always very irritated by this quote, because from a scientific point of view this is rather incorrect, as (like you said) experiments need to be repeated, to verify the results.

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[–] Alsjemenou@lemy.nl 5 points 1 week ago

"The same". In a literal sense. Not figuratively like in practice, where you're repeating things to aim for better performance/outcomes. Every repeat is different, or at least should be otherwise there is this great qoute... something about repeating the same thing and expecting different results....

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