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[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 147 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I have drawn myself as a chad and you as an ugly wojack so my position is clearly the correct one.

Windows users hate this one neat trick.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I mean, Windows 10 is okay, but man have MS really gotten shitty in the last few years.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Fully agree. Windows is trash spyware now that doesn't respect user choice.

I was really commenting more on the meme itself.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For sure. Man I miss Windows 7, that was the best. No crap, updates just worked. Was nice.

[–] SloganLessons@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It was the inverse for me. Windows 7 was always a nightmare to set up drivers, it was common to manually download the wifi drivers from the laptop's brand website. I groaned whenever someone asked me to help set up their PC.

Windows 10 just works out of the box. The only downside for me is aesthetics, I always preferred Aero.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I'm weird, i always liked the classic theme.

[–] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How about that XP though? It was pretty excellent in its day.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] ProperlyProperTea@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How about MS DOS though? That was also pretty good for its time.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Heck yeah, used to play Doom and Duke Nukem 3D.

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Yeah, it's cyclical. They're re-entering their shithead phase.

Embrace. Extend. Extinguish. The got smacked with those EU antitrust lawsuits and they reset back to Embrace, and started participating in open-source again. Then they started extending by doing shit like buying GitHub and adding even more cool shit to it. Now they're entering in extinguish phase where they're doing shit like making it difficult to change default browser, and integrating all their services together without the ability to integrate 3rd parties.

They'll (hopefully) get smacked with another EU antitrust lawsuit and reset soon.

[–] jelloeater85@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I really would like them to go back to being the cool weird uncle, not the cousin everyone is forced to play with at family gatherings.

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[–] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 9 points 2 years ago

In the last few years? You might want to read up on them

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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

I feel like I'm going to get flak for taking a position that's not completely anti-Windows, but please try to hear me out before casting judgment. I use both OS and think they both have merit. Linux- for the reasons listed in the meme, and windows- for those without the technical know-how, patience, or time for the better alternative.

That being said, if anyone thinks like how this Ed, Edd, N' Eddy looking mofo in the meme does I'll be the first to say that's a horribly bad take lol

Of course it is. There's 0 reason to come after anyone for choosing Linux as any, if at all, of the extra effort incurred is only going to affect them personally.

Edit: Not even a single flak in the comments, the happiest I've ever been to stand corrected. We've done it, world peace achieved.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I think the problem is preinstalls. No one was born understanding how Windows works, we had gathered that experience over time. If the computer you were introduced to was a Linux system (with X11 and KDE or GNOME), then that would be what you would get used to. Unfortunately, getting Linux preinstalls on laptops is basically impossible. Vendors love that preinstall money.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Companies that sell "enterprisy" laptops (like Dell and Lenovo) usually sell a few models with Linux. And while not a laptop I wouldn't be surprised if almost half of Desktop Linux users today have a Steam Deck.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I would be one of them 👋 I've used Windows up until I got my SteamDeck, & it works perfectly for my mostly light browsing needs, when I'm not gaming on it.

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[–] g8phcon2@teacup.social 5 points 2 years ago

I think that would not change the opinion much among the existing desktop userbase. That being said the younger generations are not by nature desktop users the way Gen-xers and millennials were. I think getting GNU/Linux as the default desktop for educational settings I think will have. Thankfully there is some traction being made on this front, particularly in places like France, Brazil & Argentina. Then again I guess it's not an either or, as having more vendors with preloaded Educational focused distributions & support would make such adoption more likely to successfully launch in such settings.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Linux is slowly getting there, it's developers just need to drop the "git gud" and "special club status" mentality and concentrate more on user experience.

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Some people clearly are! Some distros are clearly focused on getting a friendly interface for everything, and proton finally made Linux gaming possible, despite all the grumbling from “purists”

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Yeah like I switched and love it and I think the gap is closing fast, but whether linux closes it or windows closes it is still up to chance. The easier Linux gets for everyday users who don’t want to learn command line the more people are going to use it. The more software that just works on Linux the more easily you’ll convince people. It’s not about getting to where your coworkers or your grandma can use it. It’s about getting your in laws to not need your help to use it after a friend recommended it

[–] Rolder@reddthat.com 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I prefer Windows because I don’t need all the extra customization and in depth features, and I don’t want to bother setting them up. Like sure I could use commands to queue up file transfers, but I would never have the need and could get 99% of the way there with a drag and drop…

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[–] TheyCallMeHacked@discuss.tchncs.de 69 points 2 years ago (2 children)

He says, while using a command that brings a little convenience at the price of control and security...

[–] somenonewho@feddit.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love yes it is an amazing tool. I never had an actual use for it since any tool I might want to use it on (like apt) already has some kind of command line switch for it already

But I just once in a while stumble across yes again and run it for half a minute and have a chuckle.

Just like every time I read: https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

[–] min_fapper@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 2 years ago

Aw man that thing was so useful during University. The assignment submission tool required saying yes a million times as it explain how the whole thing worked for every submission.

Piping yes into it was so much faster.

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[–] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Terminal has plenty of convenience benefits over GUI as well. For example you can queue up long-running commands to go one after the other, something I didn't realise how useful it was until I was using Linux full time.

I use this one all the time for archiving stuff and moving it from my PC to my file server. Tar archive a folder, generate a checksum, move the new files over to the server, and then delete the original folder:

tar -cvf folder.tar folder && cat folder.tar | sha256sum > folder.tar.sha256 && mv folder.tar folder.tar.sha256 /path/to/remote/file/server/ && rm -rf folder

The && part stops execution if there is any error so the folder is only deleted once everything else is done without issues.

Can't do that with a GUI. Just make sure to proofread before you press enter.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Powershell, released in 2006: Am I a fucking joke to you?

Linux users: Ehhhh, kinda?

[–] ComradeKhoumrag 8 points 2 years ago

Wsl is proof powershell is a joke

[–] marhensa@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

for this part yes, automated process often better runs on terminal not GUI.

but that terminal is not exclusive to Linux right? and Windows is not always about GUI.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sha256 doesn't protect your files when bits flip and they are corrupted. If you want that, add a par2 checksum.

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[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y y

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

...y y y y y y y THE y FOLLOyWING ACTION yCANNOT BE UNDONEy y y y y...

"Shit, what did I fuck up?"

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[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The price of convenience is always high.

Sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not.

However, trading basic privacy protections for “but it’s so easy” is how the dark times happen.

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[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

yes linux is definitely only "slightly" more convenient than windows, and also definitely more reliable

in unrelated news i'm now into my 5th hour trying to get 2077 to run without freezing, and my system has only hard-crashed about 3 times during the process

[–] sounddrill@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ngl... if it wasn't reliable, it wouldn't be the industry lead

[–] Primarily0617@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it might be reliable for running a mainframe, but running a mainframe isn't really what i want to do in my free time

[–] TheyCallMeHacked@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But then again, is it Linux' fault that publishers refuse to make Linux versions of their games, requiring the users to use hacks to make windows executables work on Linux ?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. There wasn’t a market and games aren’t free to make

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[–] FrostKing@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If windows 12 is a subscription like the rumors say, it might finally push me to Linux. Right now I haven't moved over just cause there hasn't been a particularly annoying thing to do it yet

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