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[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 236 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So this is a “mental health crisis” shooting, and not a “we need to round up the leftists” shooting. Got it.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 104 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nah, this news will never make it to MAGA. They're already saying that this was "another" radical leftist.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago

It doesn't matter what happens anymore. Americas oligarchs spent several decades consolidating media ownership and constructing an alternative "conservative cinematic universe" where reality is entirely irrelevant.

The base has been indoctrinated with the fascist mental illness by their propaganda machine, and I mean that literally. Conservatives are now a mentally ill population, and de-programming them in any meaningful way is essentially impossible.

Whatever happens from now on, it will always be <insert any nazi scapegoat's> fault in their eyes, forevermore.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

Because leftists drive bigass pickups with giant American flags and a gun rack.

Well good. Let them spin this. Then they can start second guessing eachother.

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[–] dhork@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, this is a "Closeted Leftist makes a false flag attack" shooting. And if that doesn't work, it's a "Look at what those violent leftists made me do!" Shooting.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He has Trump derangement syndrome. Get him a doctor.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Put him in a MedBed!

[–] ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No this is brain washed radicalization shooting. Fox news robots have been calling for violence and these guys have been so programmed by the military so they do not fear death and must follow orders.

[–] Reyali@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I think everyone here understands that. The person you were responding to used air quotes implying that’s what the right will view it as.

[–] KatakiY@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

No it's another attack on Christianity in America. That's the line. Never mind they don't care about mormons

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

But that's the same thing, being a democrat / against Trump is a mental health disorder, TDS. /s

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 146 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A White Veteran with a Trump sign? This sounds like a RADICAL TRANS LEFTIST!

-CNN!

[–] shittydwarf@piefed.social 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull@piefed.world 49 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I'm sure they'll find bullet casings with ANTIFA messages written on them (suspiciously in Kash Patel's handwriting)

[–] Steve@startrek.website 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which turn out to be the manufacturer's trademark after a serious investigation.

Interpretations of the manufacturer’s trademark, with which they will annotate a photo of the casings and then claim that they were written on the casings all along. It’s true because it’s on the photo.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago

Did they ever release photos of the casings from Kirk’s shooting? Cuz I don’t believe that part for a second.

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[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We can do better:

"Make Liberals Cry Again" shirt from 2019.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 66 points 1 week ago
[–] mmcintyre@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Can't help but wonder if he thought he was avenging Charlie Kirk by killing a bunch of Mormons.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe they didn't mourn hard enough for him

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have read his ex was LDS and he held hate for them.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ahh I felt the domestic violence vibes from the description of the scenario. Scorched earth against the ex makes sense.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Whoa, no way?!? Color me surprised when 85% of mass shootings are right wing Trump extremists.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (7 children)

I get the reasoning for it, but this mad dash to "prove" a shooting is the other side's fault turns my stomach.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

All shootings are the fault of the side that allows crazy people access to guns.

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It used to always be the fault of violent video games and metal or rap music, wanna go back to those days?

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 week ago

I have read his ex was LDS and he hated Mormons. I suspect this had nothing to do with politics.

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[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Remember back when we could all agree that people who murder other people were likely mentally unwell and didn't immediately look to see who they voted for. Pepperidge Farm Remembers.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 week ago

It's because the right is desperate to throw off the well earned shade that they cause the vast majority of gun-related violence. It's almost as if conservatives, who are obsessed on only have their world view validated through the the news, get violent when the world doesn't agree with them.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's cause he was just being sarcastic... everyone knows lefties voted for the turnip as a joke.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I don’t even see this as political, it looks religious. He hated mormons by the sound of it. I’ve always said that if Christians got their wish and everyone on earth that wasnt Christian was gone, they would just begin to hate and kill each other over whatever difference they find next. All the evangelists kill everyone else, they’ll then go on to start killing each other over the color of their hair or whatever. Christianity was born as a persecuted religion so they’re always trying to kill someone and play the victim.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

It's just Sneeches with weapons for all time. If it's not religion, it's race. If it's just white supremacists left, they'd wipe out the redheads first and then the blond-brunette wars will start.

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[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] chisel@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago

That sign is clearly a paid actor!

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Clearly he's saying "Trump stop", another crazy lefty /s

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The, Bart, the.

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[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

They get so close to putting the pieces together. One commenter said they were pro-union, because people can't make as much money as they used to ("a janitor in the '60s could support a family, vacations, etc" to paraphrase the commenter). Kind of missing that unions and pro-worker efforts are a big part of why society had gotten to that point of wages, job security, etc.

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[–] Triumph@fedia.io 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just another radical left DEMONRAT

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[–] 20cello@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Guess he got too tired of so much winning.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone knows that trans, American hating leftists use Trump flags and signs as code to let Antifa agents know the location of underground safe houses used after inciting violence against good Christians!

[–] thefrozenorth@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There's no mystery here. During the 2024 campaign Trump promised the militias a race war - he didn't deliver because war puts oligarch wealth at risk. Now magas' are taking things in their own hands. That's why Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk: he was trying to kick start the civil war. Trump is desperately trying to appear war like for his base, while protecting his money.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Yes, yes, yes but we need to wait for kash’s magic marker to show us the way…

[–] Shirasho@lemmings.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Left trying their hardest to ban guns.

Shooting.

It's the radical lefts!

The mental gymnastics are real.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Does the reality even matter anymore?

Pop quiz: can you guys remember the last 20 major US shootings?

I can't. I certainly don't know their outcomes.


Folks will internalize the first wild rumor they heard (indirectly) from Twitter or CNN or whatever before attention moves to the next shooting, and that's the impression that lasts.

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