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Have you played any game with an over the shoulder camera since 2005? All thanks to RE4

I also fucking love classic survival horror but Capcom had milked the series to death by the mid 2000s. A reinvention was necessary

Did you like the original Dead Space at all?

You're right, though, I fell off survival horror for a bit after RE4. I think I got back into the genre with Alien Isolation.

Everyone always regards 4 as an evolution to the genre and revolutionary.

Ironically it mainstreamed a lot of design ideas that people now complain about, like quicktime events and contextual button presses (actually do people still complain about that? I know they used to after quicktime events got shoehorned into everything for like a decade after RE4). Basically everything about its design and controls was practically cutting edge for the time, even if it didn't invent any of it itself. I don't particularly like RE in general, but RE4 was genuinely an important practical example of a bunch of design principles that have since become standard.

I think it's less that it was revolutionary for the survival horror genre and more that it was revolutionary for third person shooters. Basically every third person shooter took some design cues from RE4.

I definitely agree with you though, that it basically ended the era of horror games being mainstream.

The marker of downfall of horror to me was Amnesia. Now too many horror games are about hiding in a closet or under a bed as a spooky monster shambles outside. It kills the pace and kills atmosphere. Alien Isolation was the only game in that style I've enjoyed because of how reactive the monster is.

Silent Hill 2 is still a high point of horror gaming that's never quite been matched. RE7 was kinda cool though, I dug it. Reminded me of my Louisiana family in some weird coincidental ways.

I've had this argument with my friend who's played and liked all the Resis (except Zero, she obviously doesnt like Zero, actually I think she doesn't like Code Veronica either) and that includes her not getting why people hate 5 and 6.

For me, Resi 4 original is a fun game, but I agree its a franchise (and genre) original sin moment and its not really Survival Horror, its a third person shooter with zombies and a few jump scares. I honestly can play and enjoy 5 and 6 as well but 6 especially just feels completely soulless.

Like idk. I think the original 4 is well designed so I can't bash it, but I totally get where you're coming from.

The huge eyes and flat mouth made her look like a child. To them, that's what was downgraded.

Very true. I mean I'm a HUGE fan of the scene where Leon turns her down after she propositions him because its absolutely hilarious, but even that was handled better character wise in the Remake even if its less funny.

While I think the switch to photorealism in RE7 was good enough to excuse it, I do miss the "anime-esque realism" they went for in the original series sometimes.

I liked the original Ashley (and not just for coomer reasons).

But yeah it is funny to see gamers say the remake "Ruins" a character they fucking despised.

HATE that fucking channel.

Was that the channel that did the "soulless" video on this?

It was meant to emphasize his angst and trauma over the RC Incident more, as well as trying to fit the serious-ish tone of the remake series. Wouldn't have worked if they tried to adapt the OG RE4 Goofball Leon, who was fairly nonchalant about being trapped in an infected murder village.

I have friends who are into resident evil and they also gush about the redesigns. Are people complaining about Ada too? Maybe its different if you play the games but she seems almost exactly the same to me.