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A Celeron n4000 with only two cores, 4gb of DDR 3 RAM and 80gb sata I 5400rpm drive, that takes 25 minutes to boot: β supported by Windows 11 because introduced on the market after 2018
A Xeon E7-8894 v4 with 24 cores, 3tb of ECC RAM and petabytes of nvme storage, paid $130k: β unsupported by Windows 11 because introduced on the market before 2018
A totally valid way to define minimum requirements...
It'll run the Windows 11 IoT edition and it'll run it well.
(though it'd run Linux better :) )
I am physicist and software engineer. My current Linux desktop PC is now 16 years old, from 2009, and with 8-core CPU and 16 GB RAM is still plain over-powered for running Emacs and rustc under Debian and Arch in VM. It is only the third desktop computer I own. I bought the second one in 1999, and that one had an AMD K6 (Pentium-like) CPU with 300Mhz clock, running S.u.S.E. Linux, and I used it for writing uni stuff and my PhD thesis on digital speech processing. The first PC I owned was a old PC with an Intel 80386 CPU which my uncle gave me in 1995. I could barely run Word 6.0 on Windows 3.11 on it (MS Word became very instable for larger documents), but LaTeX (emTeX) was running totally fine (after installing it from about 30 floppy disks).
So, to sum up: Using Linux you will save a ton of money for hardware.
Tux: What 4 GB RAM? This is some gourmet shit.
Tell that to the modern web though.
The web is so fat nowadays that it makes Windows look slim.
The modern web so fat that when it sits around the house, it sits around the shockingly robust infrastructure we've collected that provides us great convenience while it slurps up our privacy.
Fuckin' a man. My backup server uses 70mb of ram, My NAS, 250mb. My laptop, about 1GB doing normal usage things. Open up one webpage with a YouTube video embedded and the processor constantly runs all 4 cores at 30%+, fan is on high, 3GB ram getting eaten away at for a paused video and text. It's ridiculous.
I donβt know how youtube does it, but decoding a video, say with libavcodec(ffmpeg) without GPU acceleration is pretty demanding. They could do it on their server and send you the stream, but then again theyβd save a lot of money not doing that.
But I agree it shouldnβt take so much when nothing is happening, the web has very much become so bloated.
and all the oem bundleware. i knocked-down fresh boot idle active ram usage from 5.5gb to 3.5gb on a new dell desktop just by uninstalling anything that had 'dell' in the name.
That fan in there is probably bloat.
If they stopped showing so many ads, maybe theyβd leave enough memory to run an operating system.
Someone got the link to the guy's video installing windows 11 on a 2007 Sun Workstation by disabling the arbitrary checks?
Support for Windows 10 ends on October 14, 2025.
Microsoft wants you to buy a new computer.
But what if you could make your current one fast and secure again?
The good news for Microsoft is the EOL did make me buy a new computer
The bad news is that I have no intention of ever using Windows again now. I was already on the fence whether I'd ever willingly upgrade to Win11, but making it a high barrier to entry cemented my decision
Extra fun: My current gaming laptop has a TPM, but it's so new that Windows 10 doesn't recognize it. So when I try to upgrade it says 'lol nope'.
Just save yourself the hassle and ditch the malware.
I did and am much happier. When I went to install Linux, it was a last minute decision to try to dual boot, and that was the day that the Win11 pop-up showed up saying that I couldn't, so I thought "that makes my decision easy" and wiped the whole thing.
I made the switch to Linux about ten years ago ... mainly because I didn't want to upgrade to the latest Windows 7/8 and I just didn't have the need to use any Windows software ... all I do is write documents, store photos, some light video editing and go online - why do I need any other OS? The only problem I had at the start was video editing ... it just meant I didn't do any. Now there are several options to get that done too.
The fun part was that my old hardware suddenly ran twice as fast with the latest Ubuntu at the time ... and I haven't look back since.
I recently built a PC and installed Windows 10 on it because I primarily built it to play League of Legends (don't judge me). Aside from that, I've also found a couple ways to get my hands on other games as well. My other daily driver already Kubuntu installed onto it and I'd really like to use some distro on this desktop PC, but it's just not really practicable since all the games would be running from exe files or have anti-cheat (screw you League). I don't really see a way around this apart from using virtual Windows for the games within Linux, right?
Not all anticheat-games won't run on Linux. For example, I got Wuthering Waves running on Bazzite, although it uses kernel level anticheat. If a game does not have any anticheat software, it will probably run fine via Proton.
League of Legends used to run on Linux in the past, but I haven't checked how the situation nowadays is.
I recently picked up a couple of e-waste laptops, Thinkpad x130e's with an AMD E-300, 4GB RAM and a 320GB spinner. For the pair I paid $60 shipped. These were low-end semi-ruggedized laptops meant for students released around the time that HBO started showing Game of Thrones.
I've put Debian on one and it runs great. All the hardware just works, everything is pretty quick after boot, and I love how rugged and portable it is. Email, writing, basic productivity, hobby development and 2D gaming all work great. Web browsing takes a hit if I open too many tabs, the video card is too underpowered for most 3D games that came out after 2010, and large compiles are slow. I'm a bit worried about the aging HDD so I'm going to replace it with a cheap SSD which should help with boot and compile times.
The other one I'm not sure about. I've tried HaikuOS and the video and wifi work well and the whole system feels very snappy, but there's no audio or webcam support. Redox seems interesting but needs a whole lot more hardware support. I'll probably just end up cloning the first one unless I can get a better suggestion.
All that is to say, Linux is great on old cheap hardware.
Win11 is 4,5 years old and still feels like 10 builds away from going gold. It feels thrown together.
I spent probably 5-10 minutes trying to figure out how to get into the old "add a printer" thing from control panel so I could manually install a USB printer for someone yesterday. The new version in settings was presenting a list of every device on the network (corporate environment so 100s of devices) and doesn't even have a search field. Completely fucking useless.
and if you want to add some old scanner - you might also embrace Satanism because fuck this shit.
I just want to know why I can only click on the date on the main monitor to view the calendar. Why? It's such a workflow killer when I'm scheduling something and trying to check what day of the week it's happening on. Takes multiple clicks on the non-main monitor before I realize what's happening every time
That pisses me off as well. It works fine on Windows 10 so somebody fucked that up along the line somewhere. There's no excuse for it.
Little PCeaser's.
