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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

War is very expensive and the reserves Russia set aside for that war ran out some time ago. Meanwhile Ukraine keeps blasting their refineries faster than they can be repaired, and this is going fast. 17% capacity was gone end of August. Now it's near 40%. Russia is planning for importing fuel these days to keep as much as possible running. Meanwhile they're exporting crude oil and making a lot less money from that.

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 8 points 1 day ago

Pretty much this. Since Ukraine is blasting the refineries more and more people are out of gas. The scenery in southwest Russia where people can’t buy gas is kinda hilarious tho.

And now that the orange fuck has decided to help Ukraine (until his next fit), US intel will help Ukraine even more. Things will only get worse for Russia from now on. People are already publicly talking about Putin resigning.

Can’t wait for him to finally get gaddafied. Let’s hope the next guy isn’t as psychotic as him.

[–] CubitOom 29 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You could replace Russia with USA and Kremlin with Whitehouse and it would still make sense.

[–] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

In what way. Please elaborate.

(heh.)

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Inb4: OP was just referring to the titel and angry americans followed

[–] CubitOom 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Just the way that this would make sense to me.

America's economy is creaking — and the Whitehouse wants Americans to pay more for the war

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Either the Israeli genocide in Gaza or the seemingly coming war in Venezuela. Or the war they wage on their own population. Probably that last one. Didn't trump say: let's train our troops in our cities? I mean the USA were never really short on unjustified wars they started. Currently is a bit of a pause, admittedly.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

none of those are wars.

[–] P1nkman@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US has been in a war/conflict 93% of its 249 years existence. They're always at war.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] CubitOom 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

moved my comment up in the thread

[–] CubitOom 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Foreign wars that US tax dollars pay for:

  • The Russian invasion of Ukraine (I support Ukraine)
  • The Israeli genocide in Gaza (genocide is a war crime)

Demostic wars that US tax dollars pay for:

  • The war on drugs
  • The war on terror
  • The war on woke

Note: these are not just semantics. The word "war" was chosen by leaders to facilitate policy changes like increased militarization of police, creation of entire departments, and loss of US citizen freedoms.

Personally, I think the word war is synonymous with the military industrial complex. It is a self propecuating cycle of harm.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)
  • Ukraine is a sovereign nation and is supported by its allies. allies have not declared war against Russia -- not a war

  • Israel is a sovereign nation and is taking action against a perceived threat against its government (false IMO but 🤷) -- not a war

  • the rest aren't wars, they are political movements sold to the American public under the guise of better protection but in reality is the establishment of a police state nation.

war is war. none of what you said is a war. words are important. don't perpetuate the invalidation of the word "war" by continuing the misuse of the word they have instigated.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
  • Are you saying that Ukraine's allies, specifically the USA are not financially supporting the Ukraine war? Remember we are talking about how the cost of war effects the economy.
  • it sounds like you're dismissing the war in Gaza because of how you are deciding to define the word war. Do you really think that daily airstrikes, ground invasion,a siege, and an officially recognized genocide doesn't qualify as a war simply because it hasn't been declared?

I couldn't disagree more on the rest of your points. You seem so focused on semantics that you can't see the obvious. Also, if we are going to base everything on semantics, if the commander in chief declares something a war, then it is one.

US tax dollars are being used for these activities, no matter if you support them or not. And in some cases (more specifically the domestic ones) they are a net negative on GDP.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 0 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I can't discuss this with you because you're clearly not understanding what a war is.

that's fine though, you be ignorant and make a fool out of yourself. no skin off my back.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

They are right about semantics. Although, you have a decent point about overuse/misuse of the word war.

Technically the US hasn't been at war since WWII. As you say he stretches the meaning of the word war to the breaking point, not calling the Vietnam Conflict a war also seems equally ridiculous.

Also what about the Cold War? If everyone agrees the War on Drugs is a war and considering it has cost us millions of lives now why can't it be a war.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I don't think any President actually declared a cold war, which is different then the war on drugs and the war on terror. The cold war did however have a great effect on the USA economy, the military industrial complex, and also prompted the second red scare. Which led to many people losing their rights, citizenship and livelihood.

We have totally been involved in proxy wars since ww2 and some have argued we are in 2 now both in Ukraine and in Gaza.

I don't know where exactly the line is drawn, or how exactly war is defined. And I do believe that words have meanings. Which is why when a sitting president declares a war on drugs there are consequences and the USA can now execute people on an alleged "drug boat" without much resistance.

I believe it's our job to recognize and call out things like this, among other things.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Good point about the Cold War, it is more a term for academics to talk about that time in history.

Just one more thing to point out, there was also a number of regime changes the US was responsible for during that time frame. They often amounted to usurping a democracy and installing a fascist dictator.

I think it is astute to say we are in two proxy wars right now. Selling weapons is one of our favorite past times.

I think you make an excellent point about the war on drugs and blowing up a "drug" boat. I never thought of it that way.

I appreciate you.wanting to call things out. I to want to call things out when I see them. It is very important because a lot of people don't see things. I would miss a lot of it wasn't for everyone else.

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world 0 points 1 day ago

There is none. They are talking out of their asses. Watch them start ignoring every comment as soon as they are called out.

[–] rustyfish@piefed.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What a stupid fucking take.

[–] CubitOom 2 points 1 day ago

You're a stupid fucking take.

[–] Severus_Snape@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

What exactly is Russia ? Russia is a gas station with nukes.

Luckily, they can count on millions of car-addicts and millions of plastic bottle addicts around the world.

If we reduced car dependency and encouraged people to use glass bottles, the price of oil would crash and Russia would feel pain.

[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

Russia is a gas station that has started to run out of gas, they're importing refined petroleum now.

[–] BeefandSquints@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Couldn't happen to a shittier country. Well, it would be lovely to see a similar story regarding Israel.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 1 day ago

That guy looks old as fuck. Is he going to croak soon?