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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm going to wait for a source I've heard of on that one.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 25 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 hour ago

Much better. Shitty conditions and some kind of flag parade were definitely included. The beating bit is less clear, and a bigger claim since actually producing deliberate, visible injuries would be a dangerous move on their part.

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 49 points 2 hours ago

Israel is a fucking terrorist country. IDF is a new SS. They are new Nazi.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Yep, I called that they would torture her, though that was 4 months back on a previous flotilla.

People downvoted that, with no explanation.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/46287947/19301735

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

There have been a lot of libs coming over to lemmy ever since the crackdowns on reddit. Among... Others

[–] knowone@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Yeah I've noticed a lot of the engagement to what's said here is similar to r/worldnews a lot of the time. There just needs to be more communities on other instances so we don't have to deal with the enlightened centrism that dominates reddit on here too and the libs can have their own space aswell

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Yeah, like most of the .world mods.

[–] ThunderQueen@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Anyone who volunteers to moderate stuff that isnt their own server is pretty sus imo. Even more so for those that do it with an iron fist

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 41 minutes ago (1 children)

You got three downvotes and three upvotes. It's not that big of deal.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 18 minutes ago) (1 children)

Its funny that you think I personally care about what people generally think of my opinions.

Its terrifying that you don't realize that anyone who downvoted that was confident the notion of me stating something that would probably eventually happen was... not likely, not the case, for some reason... but they were also too lazy to explain why they thought that.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 12 minutes ago

You cared enough to write a paragraph that I'm not going to read.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 125 points 3 hours ago (6 children)

She’s still a little kid. They made her suffer.

I think that's needlessly infantilizing her. She's 22. She's not a "little kid". I think she's old enough for her opinions to carry weight, so how is she a "little kid"?

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 30 minutes ago)

I absolutely think of 22 as a little kid, but I was there when the last Woolly Mammoth died, so it’s somewhat relative.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 42 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The youth should have their opinions respected too.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 29 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm not going to take political opinions from a 3 year old, which is about what I'm thinking when someone says "little kid". Teenagers, like she was when she got famous, can have enough context about the world that their opinions, particularly about things like sustainability, equality, etc, are valid.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 31 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

I mean, I feel you, I remember aggroing over verbiage like that when I was younger, but as I am now approaching my upper 30s, I find myself referring to basically 25 yos and under as 'kids', its not necesarrily always meant in a demeaning, infantilzing way, can be meant more in the sense of...

... 'has their whole life ahead of them still, it shouldn't be marred or maimed or traumatized this early' /

/ 'they are adults technically yes, but they have far less experience than most other adults' /

/ 'they are too young to be beset by such cruelty and hardship, there should be other adults being better adults such that these awful things do not happen.'

I guess what I am trying to say is it becomes a kind of genuine, broad protective connotation, not trying to be belittling, moreso a lament that the world has failed.

Maybe call it a bungled attempt at intergenerational solidarity.

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[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 33 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Swedish gov should cut all ties for this terrorist state torturing their citizens.

[–] Slotos@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

They are too busy renting prisons in Estonia.

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (4 children)

There is nothing wrong with the prisons in Estonia.

What is the point of your comment?

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 2 hours ago

israel has reached terminal rogue state status: they don’t give a fuck what their image is, they know they’ve got the backing of the imperial core no matter what, so they don’t even bother with excuses anymore

death to israel and to all of those who support its genocide

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 hours ago

If this is true this is some crazy shit. She just wanted to feed hungry people and fight for climate change. And they do all this shit to her?

What the fuck is wrong with human beings this past decade?

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 264 points 4 hours ago (17 children)

While I wouldn't wish this on anyone, it's amazing how self-destructive this is. Greta is an internationally famous activist. Flagrantly violating and abusing a person with world renown - along with dozens of other activists - is a radically stupid way to hasten international isolation.

It is well known by most in Israel that the country simply cannot function in isolation. It will lead to collapse. In this, they are giving the flotilla far more power to eventually overthrow the ruling regime.

[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 20 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There are reports from American doctors who worked in Gaza of Palestinian babies being regularly shot in the head.

That was reported during the Biden administration.

Israel is murdering babies, and it hasn't affected their support. Why would this matter?

[–] humanamerican@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 hour ago

Palestinian babies

Plenty of people in The West^R^ don't consider them worthy of empathy, but a white woman of small stature who first became famous as a child might be a different story. We need a mass worldwide cultural shift to identifying all humans as part of the in group or we aren't going to make it through this century.

[–] 52fighters@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 45 minutes ago

We also have no evidence any of this happened. It is easy to make propaganda when we want to believe it.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 10 minutes ago)

Remember when Elon Musk did a nazi salute on the world stage for all to see? Remember how we were trying to rationalize what the hell he was thinking? The simplest answer is that nazis at some point just can't help themselves and they end up saluting because they love doing it, they just need to show people who they are.

Same logic I think applies here. Yes it is self-defeating, yes, it is stupid, and yes, it is gratuitous and dangerous. But these people working Ben Gvir's prisons? This is who they are. It's horrifically simple. The people working the Israeli prison system are low level functionaries of apartheid. These are not people who think in terms of strategy etc. If they had the capacity to think like that they wouldn't be there. It's as simple as that.

/Edit: typos

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 50 points 3 hours ago

While I wouldn’t wish this on anyone, it’s amazing how self-destructive this is. Greta is an internationally famous activist. Flagrantly violating and abusing a person with world renown - along with dozens of other activists - is a radically stupid way to hasten international isolation.

You'd be correct most of the time, but this is Israel we are talking about. They know there won't be any consequences because claiming they did something wrong must mean you're a nazi, and even if you get over that, daddy USA is there to protect them anyway.

Israel could livestream a soldier killing Greta and they would face no consequences whatsoever.

[–] plz1@lemmy.world 108 points 4 hours ago (8 children)

They just assume Uncle Sam will bail them out, no matter what. They are not wrong, much to the frustration of a large portion of the US population.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

The Americans are not the reliable partner they used to be.

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 3 hours ago

May anyone who supports Israel burn in hell for all eternity.

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