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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Bethlehem is in Palestine. Jesus was a Palestinian.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 days ago (7 children)

If the story is to be believed, Jesus was conceived via parthenogenesis (aka immaculate conception aka unfertilized egg). This means Jesus had only X chromosomes and yet presented as male. Jesus was definitely somewhere on the line of intersex, transgender, non-binary, et. al.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This is funny and makes me smile

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

He had a Holy Father who was into rape.

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[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

If conservative Christians cared what the Bible said, I’m sure they would be very upset!

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Nowhere in the Holy Bible is it implied God is anything other than a dude. It's always father this and king that when referring to God.

Unless you mean Joseph is non-binary? In which case, again, no. He's just a cuckold who didn't ever consummate his marriage to Mary, and they both died as virgins. Which is honestly the most unbelievable part of the whole story.

[–] s@piefed.world 44 points 2 days ago (5 children)

God is three entities: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. That sounds like an extension of the nonbinarism of Two Spirit to me.

[–] Greddan@feddit.org 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yahweh was always a dude and even had a wife before these new age cultists wrote her out of the story. Typical.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ashera was not completely erased but to a degree merged with her husband and therefore gave him female and arguably non binary features

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The people believing in this deity today don't think so and you won't convince them otherwise.

[–] Signtist@bookwyr.me 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, even if there were a whole section of the bible describing god as a woman people would still fight you for even suggesting that they're not 100% man.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

God is described as a nurturing mother sometimes

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those people aren't a monolith. Some do think so

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was pondering altering my post to "(Most of) the people" but honestly, from what I know, I don't think the people considering the Christian god anything other than manly masculine male are a significantly large group to have any effect on anything. At some point it's impossible to take any and all aberrations into account if you want to have a meaningful discussion.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

In your last comment you said "this deity" and that includes Christians with different views on God. But if you ment it in the sense of a very masculine conceptualization, I misunderstood and totally agree

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

RIP Asherah. #neverforget

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate to be the "umm actually guy🤓", but in the bible God is described as both man and woman. God is described as a being beyond gender as God is a spirit.

The most promiment ones describe God as father, but he's also often described as mother and attributed female traits to them.

But as I said that's none of my business.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

often described as a mother [in the Bible]

Definitely going to need a source for that one. Isaiah 66:13 is a one-off similie to mothers comforting their children, but I don't think you'd then turn around, read Psalm 42:1, and think that David is an otherkin and that God identifies as waterself.

hey leave your heteronormativity out of the bible david can be whoever they want

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Is it possible for a concept of binary gender to exist in a species which has only ever had one member?

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[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

IIRC, the virgin Mary stuff is mostly Catholic sanctification stuff. They wanted to make her "pure" so they said she was a virgin.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I recall (but am not up to finding at this hour) one spot in the OT where someone is talking about God feeding mankind with the milk from his breast. And I think he “birthed” ice and snow in the book of Job?

But in this case, the Holy Spirit is the one that “came on Mary.”

God the father and God the son are masculine, but God the spirit is without gender.

Also, Jesus had brothers in the story, and they don’t seem to be supernatural beings, so I think it was consummated eventually.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jesus had brothers in the apocryphal books, that are not usually recognized as part of the Bible (the church says because they have been written later than the four main ones)

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The book of Acts is not generally considered apocryphal.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago

Jesus had siblings. There is even a record of one, John, being executed by being thrown from a high place.

[–] Eq0@literature.cafe 8 points 2 days ago

If I remember correctly, there are older pieces of the Bible that come from a time where Jahve was only one of a duality of Gods, male god Jahve and a female god that later got incorporated into Jahve.

Shady reference that just partially overlaps

[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Man, imagine being cucked by the actual GOD himself, like, the holy father?!

I'm honestly surprised that all the incel NEETs haven't formed a religion around that, I mean come on! At least that would be sociologically interesting. But no, we just get that Andrew Taint fellow instead.

[–] turdcollector69@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

"... died as virgins."

Holy shit, one of us?

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[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are you trying to say God isn't a man? Preposterous! Next thing you're going to claim Jesus wasn't blond and blue eyed!

next you'll be trying to convince me the 12 apostles wasn't his gay harem. preposterous!

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not a definite disagreement on the the non binary part but overwhelmingly, the God of the bible is male presenting including having a penis

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Man, it's always fun listening to scholars make vague and circular arguments like you see in that video. So many times there's an interpretation that's taken as fact, and bolstered by other parts that both support and rely on the initial supposition to be true to be true themselves, or could have been referring to the initial supposition but now used to support it.

Was Adam's penis created circumcized? Of course, because he's made in gods image and God has a circumcized penis. How do we know God has a penis? There are euphemisms in semitic languages that use the same words to refer to penises, so clearly that's what they meant. No, it doesn't say it for sure, but it has to be true! There's no way the men writing the mythos would anthropomorphize god and give it masculine characteristics while writing a text that was extremely patriarchal, as was the society at the time.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

And he make out with Judas. Always surrounded himself with poor hard working people.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

One of his fathers was also his son

[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah, well most (if not, all) religion is male-dominated, so it's natural to think God is a man. That's a pretty unhealthy point of view, especially considering that the entire world is run by men, which means egos running wild, one-upmanship on the reg, violence ad nauseum, not to mention followers oppressing anyone that doesn't fit the mold. That's not religion; that's dominator culture. Knocking your head on the floor is just going to give you brain damage.

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