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[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 days ago (3 children)

sublime text is $99 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Kate is $0 for life and you don't even have to pay it and they have zero ai slop :)

hmm looking into this; does kate have package repositories? i love sublime because i can essentially keep my config folder in git (with gitignored exclusions obvs) and keep my install in sync between laptop and desktop

[–] munsking@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

emacs is free, in more ways than one

[–] fruitcantfly@programming.dev 10 points 6 days ago

That's not quite true: Yes, your $99 license is a life-time license, but that license only includes 3 years worth of updates. After that you have to pay $80, if you want another 3 years worth of updates. Of course, the alternative is just putting up with the occasional nag, which is why I still haven't gotten around to renewing my license

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The mail I got makes it quite clear that you have to opt-in if you're using a paid version:

Dear JetBrains AI user,

We are notifying you that on October 7, 2025, we will roll out an updated version of the JetBrains AI Terms of Service. The main change is in the data sharing clause. Previously we said we wouldn’t use your inputs, data, outputs, or suggestions to train AI models. This is still the case, unless you explicitly allow us to do so.

  • For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.
  • For companies that are unwilling or, for legal reasons, unable to opt in to the program – nothing changes either, and their admins remain in full control.

Important to note that the data sharing is OFF by default on all types of JetBrains IDEs licenses except for non-commercial tier until you change the settings explicitly.

For more details about the change, please read this blog post.

Other updates to the JetBrains AI Terms of Service reflect some recent changes to the JetBrains AI service. For example, JetBrains AI can now be used not only with JetBrains products, but also with selected third-party products. The service also includes a new feature that allows you to upload various content for indexing.

For the existing users, the updates will take effect on October 7, 2025. By using JetBrains AI after this date, you agree to the updated JetBrains AI Terms of Service.

Highlight by me. Personally, I don't see a reason to be outraged. I've even used their AI products and they're OK. They can take over dumb tasks or help me not having to look up documentation.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Am I missing something? Non-paid versions also have to opt-in, no?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My reading just based on the post above is that none paid versions are sharing by default but can be changed to off. All other versions are off by default but can be changed to on.

I don't understand what the advantage to the developer is supposed to be to let AI scrape their code.

[–] freeman@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I think I misread a statement about existing users not having their settings changed possibly on an update?

For individuals using JetBrains IDEs with commercial licenses, free trials, free community licenses, or EAP builds who do not explicitly consent to the new data collection model – nothing changes.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (5 children)

I liked PyCharm, but its time to refresh my friendship with VIM.

[–] dinckelman@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

I've been building up my Helix setup, and its been fantastic. Got tired of constantly fighting corporate stuff

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

Neovim + tmux

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's exactly what I did, switching from Rider. LazyVim helped with getting a usable setup (especially LSPs are pain to setup without it), https://www.vim-hero.com/ taught me the absolute basics of navigation, and then I simply installed IdeaVIM into Rider to force myself to use it, and switched my default editor to LazyVim.

It has already been a few months, and I'm pretty used to it. I still fumble here and there, I still have to stop and think then doing more involved operations, but for the basic editing I wouldn't go back.

The most important observation I have is that it does not make me more efficient at editting text, the fumbles and mistakes usually offset any gains I have from the many navigation/jump/repeat keys, and reaching for the mouse would be quicker, but -

It's super fun. Learning new motions is satisfying, you can see progress, and by slowly adding a new motion, then trying to get it to your muscle memory is simply fun. And there's always something to learn, a new motion to add or make more efficient. It's basically gamified text editting, and if you like mastering things in the muscle memory sense, it's awesome. I'd absolutely recommend everyone to make the switch, but not for "being a faster/more efficent at text editting" reason, because if you want that, learning every single IDE keybind will make you faster faster.

Also, it's surprisingly comfortable not having to reach for a mouse. It has only been a few months, and I'm getting slightly annoyed whenever a program doesn't have a hotkey for proper navigation and I have to touch my mouse, hah.

[–] 33550336@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Thank you for sharing the experience, it encouraged me even more to VIM when I'll have to work in Python.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

Try zed with vim mode.

[–] drolex@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago

It's a non-mutual friendship, though.

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 5 points 5 days ago

The average coder is not worth learning from. Especially since this is targeting the free users by default who are usually students and amateurs. Quality over quantity, JetBrains.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Does this apply to Android studio?

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

I'm guessing not - Google probably wants the data for itself.

[–] moonleay@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

This is what finally pushed me to move all coding I can away from Jetbrains products. I wanted to to that for a while, because I didn't want to depend on a closed system and wait until it enshitified. Now it happened. Sad to see, but it was inevitable.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] derpgon@programming.dev 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

JetBrains is a company that, creates one of the most popular IDE for many programming languages. Although some of them are free, there is a paid option for 200€ for their full pack for a year (you can pay monthly, and you can choose a smaller pack or individual IDE). Also every year you pay the next one is cheaper.

They also have an AI agent Junie and an AI chat assostant, both currently running on Claude Sonnet 3.5 and 4 (can choose).

They also offer a free AI, which is running locally and can do very simple autocomplete and doesn't support any chatting ability.

However, as you might know, AI usually needs some code to work with. This autocomplete AI can be enabled to run online as well, thus sensing your code to either JB or Claude.

Of course, both chat and agent require internet access (but all this online functionality can be disabled and everything can be connected to custom AI model running locally or elsewhere, except I think agent).

OP is implying that they want money for their IDEs, their AI, and gobble up code fragments.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Oh, sorry, I should've been more specific.

I know about JetBrains and their AI agent, etc. I'm wondering if they recently did a switcheroo on their license/privacy policy/something that basically states "all your code are belong to us" now?

[–] Mikina@programming.dev 2 points 5 days ago

The context is that they made a blogpost that's written in, at least in my opinion, extremely pleading tone. They are basically crying that they can't make a good AI with public data, and if you please could turn on their new AI data collection that would steal all your code. I've seen a few "we will use your data for AI" posts, and this was just unsettling, with the tone in which it was written.

I can't really say why, but I find this style of communication pretty unsettling. It does have exactly the same wibe as the picture in the post.

So, if you pay for their IDEs, nothing changes, but you can opt-in into them using your data for AI training, and they are pleading you do. If you use the free version, it's opt out and turned on by default.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 1 points 5 days ago

Oh, not sure about that honestly.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world -3 points 6 days ago
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 187 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (17 children)

Doesn’t anyone else use things like OpenSnitch to audit all outgoing connections? I block all phone homes until something breaks, then investigate.

If you are trapped on Windows for some corporate reason, there is SimpleWall.

We’re all friends here, and friends don’t let friends let apps phone home.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Lulu is a good FOSS alternative for Macs. LittleSnitch is good too but proprietary (that’s where OpenSnitch got its name)

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The last time I got a virus on Windows I was only made aware because the built-in firewall warned me a Powershell script was trying to phone home.
Since then I run SimpleWall and I highly recommend everyone else do the same. It's annoying at the beginning but annoyance turns into peace of mind when you know nothing, not even built-in Windows processes can phone home without you knowing.

I did not know about this before, bookmarking the OpenSnitch github so I can try it out on my PC later

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