This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.
Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.
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Being upset over a difference of 61 is pretty dumb in and of itself. It’s less than 6% discrepancy even if you don't count hostages killed in Gaza.
There’s plenty of occurrences of media manipulation around this conflict, this doesn’t even register on my radar at all. Like “Oh I was just a few dozen deaths short of having sympathy for Israel”
It's about keeping the incident in the narrative and attributing murders committed by zionists to their victims, strengthening the logic paths of the genocidal abuser; not about the actual numbers. Nobody, including this filth, this hazbarite scum, gives a single fuck about the numbers.
Or for that matter the Zionist party bros who fucked around dancing on the graves of their victims and for once had the opportunity to find out.
Stop falling for their fucking lies. This is a nazi propagandist trying to help excuse a genocide.
What's confusing is that it felt like MyBrainHurts was doing a gotcha on a gotcha, and then it fell down a rabbit hole from there.
But more than that...
Say ICE kidnaps a pair of kids in the morning. In the afternoon, the distraught parents see them in a detention van and try to get them back. In the commotion, one of the kids dies.
Like, I don't think MyBrainHurts is being deliberate in the language, but "one kid dies in the commotion" rings a big "cop-talk" alarm bell. The whole argument feels dumb and petty, hashed out by two people with no control of the horror in the outside world. And because of the vacuum of activism that is the internet, they waste their time snipping at each other rather than finding a better use for their restless energy.
Also, ice were the instigators, the child was not dancing on the graves of the ice agents' loved ones.
Its important to remember that nothing done to a zionist by a Palestinian can be unjust. Literally ever.
Like “Oh I was just a few dozen deaths short of having sympathy for Israel”
This is really well put and cracked me up.
YDI, You're not really correcting numbers but speculating. And again it's worth noting that many if not all zio detainees were killed by zionist attacks. Many of these murders were far after the initial resistance. The ICE comparison is really weak and gross.
So the article is misleading and you're just feeding into it with more propaganda/speculation.
They're even in here doubling down on it
Also, its not murder if you're doing it to a Zionist.
That's geneva_convenience for ya. Avoid .ml communities like the plague, they're not very tolerant of any form of dissent. Geneva likes to paint a lot of people as Zionist without good reason.
I really should keep an eye out for those comms and just avoid. At least any of the vaguely political ones!
(Just Manufacturing Consent feels like a trap designed for me as Chomsky's thoughts on this are super relevant and interesting so, like a fool, I fell into the trap.)
Conflating the Palestinian resistance with ICE is pretty damn creepy in my book.
It's trying to erase the century of Zionist atrocities, erase the fact that the hostages were dancing on Palestinian graves, and attribute zionist bloodlust and friendly fire/orcish disregard for hostages to their victims, while keeping an event used for Zionist excusing of genocide in the minds and imaginations of readers.
Its more complex than usual hazbarite shit, but not less vile. You do not want this scum on your server.
Simple heuristic:
It is impossible for any Palestinian to commit an injustice against a Zionist. Literally impossible. A Palestinian sociopath (if there's anyone left in Palestine old enough for the diagnostic criteria to apply) could rape and eat a thousand Zionist larvae and it you would be a monster for stopping them.
I read it and I don't think it wasn't conflating them, I think it was just a simile. Granted, I think OP was wrong here and the simile didn't track because of it, but still, the ICE mentions could've been swapped with something entirely separate and the conversation would remain the same because it wasn't a direct comparison.
the ICE mentions could’ve been swapped with something entirely separate
If they swapped the comparisons with something appropriate - for instance, MK capturing white South Africans to trade for the thousands the Apartheid-regime kidnapped and disappeared - their point stops looking so obvious, doesn't it?
Similes are rhetorical conflations. A conflation is generally an attempt to treat two similar ideas as roughly the same, which is the rhetorical purpose of a simile. If you didn't see the comparison between the two events and want to link the ideas in the audience's mind you would use different examples.
Tl;Dr the rhetorical act of comparing presumed like to like is usually a rhetorical act of conflation
Your problem is a mod who doesn’t give a fuck about the people of Palestine but uses every single inch to cry about the west being bad. Also gets comedically angry when disagreed with.
Just tag with “do not engage” and you’ll be safe. Other than that there is nothing that can be done really.
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though they don't have any rules listed, big red flag
