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Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 hours ago

Not surprised at all.

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 20 points 22 hours ago

Stuff like this is why Google wants to restrict sideloading to "verified developers" only.
Even if an app like this isn't distributed through Google Play, they could disable the developer's account for any vague "abuse" reason.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why can’t this be a web app that uses web notifications? Why does it even need to be an on-device app? That’s building in a vulnerability that doesn’t need to be there.

Make it a site. Go to the site. Pin the site. Allow notifications from site. Done.

Yes, Apple and Google are in the wrong, but why are we relying on them for this at all? Not everything needs to be a fucking app.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's even stopping them from just uploading to archive.org?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Cause tech illiterate people need as much friction removed as possible.

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

This isn’t a tech illiteracy issue. Sure you CAN take a video, and upload it to archive.org from your phone.

Try doing that while actively being abused by ICE.

It’s about making the process as foolproof as possible, because seconds matter here, and making sure that footage is backed up as quickly as possible is paramount.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

What a way to say the same thing but differently, well done.

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 2 points 8 hours ago

Nope, you’re conflating tech illiteracy with failing to meet the needs of the use case. Hope that helps!

[–] courval@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

We really need a Linux phone.. It's like the future of democracy depends on it..

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group. Right now tens of millions of people there are straight-up worshipping an obvious fascist as god-king and a sizeable portion of the other chunk is still desperately clinging to the idea of being “moderate”.

A linux phone would be nice but it’s not going to save the world if the people are still dumb and cowardly.

Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group.

Yeah, it's fucked.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The free western world really need to fast track the divide from US controlled tech.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?"

Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.

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[–] kevin2107@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

We need to spread the word of lemmy reddit mods are banning everything

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

they are ~~usually~~ always the enemy

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[–] eigenraum@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 day ago

18 U.S.C. § 1519 – „Destruction, Alteration, or Concealment of Evidence“ ?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because corporations suck up to fashists if they are in power. That's all.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

But fashion? Englisch is weird.

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago
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[–] vogo13@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 day ago

I'm glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It's almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.

“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini

Dissolution of the Order of the Star

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 190 points 2 days ago (41 children)

Send Apple feedback. They need to hear how unpopular working with Trump will make them.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/

[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 144 points 2 days ago (21 children)

OR stop buying ANY of their products

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don't tell them their actions are irredeemable and they've lost you for life.

If you tell them you'll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You're essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don't mind them bending the knee.

[–] disablist@lemdro.id 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Yes, being vocal and public your cancelation/leaving is really important to make clear why this is happening.

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[–] PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (21 children)

People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.

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[–] CannedYeet@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They actually did try the years ago. The idea was a signal could be sent to deactivate cameras and microphones on all phones in a vicinity. It was being pitched as a way to stop people from recording a live events like concerts but there was enormous outcry over the potential for abuse so it was dropped.

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[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 30 points 1 day ago (6 children)

I can't think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn't in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed "problematic" could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, "Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply."

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