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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

"Undemocratic" is such a milquetoast way of saying unhinged, blood-drenched gangsters for the ownership class

[–] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I can't decide which is more chefs-kiss about the whole situation -- the US and kkkanada patting themselves on the back for rescuing six imperialist spies, or that there's a Ben fucking Affleck movie about it.


Edit: Also, the source material for the fictional-but-not-really sci-fi movie that the CIA used as a cover story sounds problematic as all hell:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_Light

"What if turbo-orientalism... IN SPAAAAAAACE?"

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"What if turbo-orientalism... IN SPAAAAAAACE?"

But Dune already exists.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I haven't watched the film, but what's reactionary about Dune anyway specifically?

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

It's not really. It has its tropes but it also sorta invented those tropes so it feels a bit unfair to call them "tropes."

I mean you kinda have the "white messiah" narrative but the books make it clear that it's not really a good thing and leads to a holy war that kills billions. I suppose if you are a reactionary that is fine but to other people it sounds like a horrorshow.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not necessarily reactionary, but it does reproduce some stereotypes and tropes that are a staple of an orientalist point of view, exoticizing the totally-not-muslim culture, painting them as backwards and animal-like.

I like Dune, but it Herbert's white-dude understanding of other cultures shows a bit.

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago

Not only racist but derivative

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The CIAs motto should be "that was then, this is now"

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

and on the flip side, the liberal's motto is "your coup accusations have no smoking gun evidence. you're just going to have to wait for the CIA to declassify it in 60 years."

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"Argo fuck yourselves!" hyuk hyuk hyuk

it's not even a joke, it's barely even a pun. Yet this movie won an oscar for best picture because it worshipped the CIA and framed Iranians as evil

[–] The_Walkening@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

I remember going to see it with an ex and we were the only people below the age of 60 in the audience.