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This an old repost, but the point stands.

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[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Of course I can get it, and I have every intention to do so! But it would probably take me more than half a second to retrain my associations of which name to use, which pronouns to use, etc. There is going to be an adjustment period.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No one expects you to be perfect, just to try.

Seriously. I got a mas presenting mtf Uber regular, I'll occasionally drop a "bro" or "dude" and she couldn't care less cause she knows I'm at least trying. It was literally the first interaction I had with her getting in and me saying "we buckled up bro?" And her saying "I'm a woman." And I said "oh, my bad." And continued on like nothing happened. How hard is it just to have some fucking decency?

[–] jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That is entirely fair. I'm trans myself (though I transitioned 20 years ago and it isn't really part of my identity) and constantly stumble on they/them pronouns. It can be hard, but people appreciate you trying, trust me on that.

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As a native speaker of a language with only non gendered pronouns, I trip over with all of them. I regularly use the wrong pronoun of people who very obviously present as one or the other.

Still, I was once asked why I was being so woke for using 'they'. I was really surprised, it was because I was referring to a person with a gender neutral name, what was I supposed to do? Assume they were male?

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. The "correct" behavior is to assume that people are male. That is what we are actually taught in grade school (at least when I went ~15 years ago)

In reality, using they when the gender of who you are talking about is not known has been a thing in English for over 600 years.

Singular "they" is actually older than singular "you", which has only been a thing for about 400 years.

A fun observation is that both singular they and singular you are grammatically plural. E.g, you can never say something like "you is tall", only "you are tall", even when you are talking to a single person.

The same is true for "pants" and "scissors"; but somehow only seems to confuse people when it comes up with "they"

[–] wizzor@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Huh, thanks for a genuine answer, TIL.

[–] nixus@anarchist.nexus 4 points 2 days ago

This makes me wish we didn't use gendered language to begin with. I get why it came about in societies that wanted to emphasize assigned roles, but fuck all that.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 4 points 2 days ago

Respect pronouns and respect who people are, or you just might find yourself ~~in a pattern buffer~~ visiting Bajor.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Just as long as you're not poor, like Martok.