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I came here around the time the rif app shut down, and the general vibe I get from this place is much more negative than when I joined. Is Lemmy growing more toxic or is it just my imagination?

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[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Replies have certainly taken on a more Reddit-like quality to some things. Like rude for the sake of being rude.

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[–] oeuf@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

No, it's not just your imagination. It has become distinctly more hostile in all communities.

[–] ski11erboi@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah. I was going to say I feel like people have a lot of "legitimate" reasons to be negative right now, at least in America. Our mental health has been tried.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

I feel like it's steadily increased over the last 6 months or so, but it's hard to really say. And it's still pretty tame.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Places would change up and down in tone and attitude since the days of Usenet, BBSes, and FidoNet. It's not the platform, it's the people. How the world is in RL affects how people talk online, and the world changes over time.

The simpler answer may be that your feed has changed some since you started and you're pulling in discussions that have a different vibe than when you started. Just as you can grow your feed by browsing around, you can cull certain places that tend to be darker by blocking people or instances.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I considered making a really insulting comment on this just for fun, but I just can't be arsed.

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[–] Today@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

The world is increasingly hostile, but let me still seems more humane than any other social media.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I haven’t noticed anything in particular, and I do post in more controversial areas like Politics and News. There’s always a chance to get negative feedback in those c/.

I have noticed some ancient-ass reddit-type reposts of the same old shit that circulates reddit, though. That junk can die.

E: maybe I stand corrected. I asked for a source for a claim and got downvoted because someone’s ego couldn’t take it or it was too hard to provide a source.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It seems that out in the real world and here in the digital world we have been allowed/engineered to lose our civility and respect. Reminds me of the rock orchestra DEVO.

[–] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Civility as a desirable trait seems so bizarre to me. Historically it's been used as a tool of oppression. In fact, it still is (remember those portions of Tennessee who lost their representatives due to "decorum" "violations" when they had the audacity to protest gun violence rather than just saying "thoughts and prayers"?).

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The hostility has been here for quite a while, though. When the migrating happened from Reddit to Lemmy it was all nice and cozy but after a year or so the hostility was already there. Very often people did not want to acknowledge this (and started to heavily downvote the particular comment stating this). Plus with what is happening* in the world, the negativity from reality seeps into the digital world.

But anyway, the best thing to do is just block anyone who is hostile towards you for no actual reason. Has no point to put energy and/ or time in it.

[–] lietuva@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

just general vibe here, even positive news about something happening outside of US and you get a lot of negativity.

[–] foodandart@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This place (old.lemmy.zip) is downright chill. Then again, I just came off Reddit (after 14 years there..) and that is in full rage-bait algorithm-driven meltdown. Feels like Reddit in 2010 here. Just lovely..

[–] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

As a platform grows, you tend to get more diversity of voices. As voices become diverse, conflict becomes inevitable.

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh yeah? Well I think you're wrong!

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah? Well, so's your face!

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[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I've not noticed that in particular yet. but it might be because I block accounts that don't add constructively to the comments, so maybe I'm not seeing a lot of the worst behaviour.

[–] Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Can confirm. Lemmy became a lot friendlier after I blocked the worst of the permanently outraged communities and a bunch of people with extreme views.
I try to limit that to the worst cases, though, as I don't want to drive "bubblification" too much...

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I've gotten pretty zealous with the block button. When I see a comment thread with some dipshit who clearly isn't being constructive I just block them immediately now.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I’ve seen a lot of hard exclusionary leftists making noise outside of the triad.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 9 points 2 days ago

I haven’t noticed it lately, but I’ve experienced what you’re talking about. As far as I can tell, it ebbs and flows.

[–] IndigoLarry@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You're really being a drag, dude. What's with you throwing all this shade? Wanna fight about it? /s

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Welcome back, I've been here the whole time and currently it seems a bit more toxic and hostile than when RIF shut down, I feel there are a couple more contrarians now than before but it hasn't been a steady decline. There has always been the odd jerk and troll on this site. I would say the time Lemmy was most wholesome when !cat@lemmy.world flooded the front page with black cats, it was such a cute problem for us to have. Anyone else remember that?

Like others I'd say it's cyclical month to month. This year there's daily doom in the news with US politics. If you want to avoid that then block !news@lemmy.world, !politics@lemmy.world, !usa@midwest.social, and other news and politics if it fills up with Trump posts. 2024 was a lot more hopeful and I think that reflected in the average user's demeanor even if there was bothsidesism, Gaza stuff, Ukraine stuff and Trumpism stuff. You'll be informed of important developments as Trump stuff leaks out on occasion but you don't need to be constantly engaged. Also if you do curate your All/Local feed then maybe some new communities sprung up that need pruning to fit your desired vibe.

Also: If you see a crapton of comments on a post with low votes then you know best to turn and run from the thread where most of the comments are.

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