Having Fedi folks agreeing with 4chan is not on my bingo card this year, or ever.
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2025
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Well the internet is written mostly by bots. Everything needs Id and spying. We may end up building a new internet so fuck the old internet
We’ll build a new internet with blackjack and hookers.
Just like it used to be.
You know what, forget the blackjack
And the hookers are just all obese sweaty neckbears roleplaying as hookers
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The first e-commerce was a weed deal. Don't forget that.
You’re right here, building it with us!
NomadNet feels a bit like a new old internet.
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I might not like what you have to say, but I'll defend to death, your right to say it kinda shit
Within reason. Libel, incitement to violence, hate speech, etc, should be illegal for obvious reasons
There is an obvious reason why countries like Germany make a strong stance against any "trolling" nazi joke/imagery/salute.
But America's First Amendment seems to not understand that reason (or only understand when it is weaponized against communism, black people, trans rights and all the "woke culture" stuff)
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Everyone has a different definition, but yeah generally free speech in an ideal sense extends to just before you start causing what a reasonable person would concern harm to someone.
Fuck that. People spreading racial hate and public lies with the intention to mislead the public should be locked up.
I would say intent matters and while it's impossible to truly determine it, we still have a distinction for murder/manslaughter and negligence.
If a politician lies or hides something for personal gain, that should be illegal, but there's so much stuff the state does where it's best if the general public don't know, public order would probably break down pretty quickly otherwise.
Same with racial hate. If it's just stating an opinion, fine, I probably don't agree but go ahead. If you're actively trying to harm (mentally, economically, socially or physically) that group, or inciting others to do the same, then that's not fine.
I can't think of where "racial hate" could possibly be "just stating an opinion" without also causing harm that is both mental and social.
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Maybe, but what about when governments start saying being anti-israel is hate speech?
Once your govt has been captured by foreign interests, it doesn't really matter what laws are on the books anyway, they'll find a way to screw you over.
Early this year Rümeysa Öztürk was kidnapped and deported from USA with precisely that excuse. Anti-Israel hence pro Hamas hence enemy of USA.
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It's ridiculous for the UK to issue fines to a company who doesn't operate in the country. Just block access if that's whatever your stupid laws dictate.
EU fined number of tech giants before, this is not new. If you have users and derive income from a country, you are operating in this country.
Those tech giants operate in the EU and have EU customers. 4Chan does neither and stores no user data. At that point the onus is on the user and the UK/EU should be going after their own citizens that use it if they have a problem with it being used. Ideally, they wouldn't go after anyone but here we are.
4chan is selling passes to UK customers
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What? And let loose what is basically an opportunity for a bribe?
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Welp, i agree with 4chan.
Inb4 major Lemmy instances get banned
Let's start with who they going to fine, and which domains will they Ban!
But yea, it could happen.
the UK is fucked
At least they are a little less fucked now lmao
4chan is full of assholes, but blocking websites is pretty fucked. what person wants their government doing that?
None of us do. Most of us have started using VPNs ever since this law came into effect.
hands on hips "That'll stop them." /s
4chan is an extreme example of an unmoderated site - indeed it's what the OSA was designed to combat. If this legislative test fails, it would undermine the acts legitimacy, and provoke questions as to it's existence.
It's a shit law - it's not fit for purpose. Its sole reason for existence is to controle public speech, not protect the children.
I would normally be sympathetic to their stand except earlier this year when this first started, they called on Trump to use all available political leverages to prevent this and protect free speech. Calling on Trump to protect free speech is just absolutely ridiculous.
We're allowed to call it retarded now at least
/s
I never thought I'd be siding with 4chan.
Just to let you know I was never a 4chan user.
That's exactly what a 4chan user would say... *narrows eyes in suspicion*
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I didn't expect in my life to side with 4chan
UK is ultra lame for this.
Send a 'smart' fine. Check mate, shitposters.
Free pepe
United Kondom
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