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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Pretty sweet that they’re going to be getting new production airframes, not just used ones.

Also, Canada should also assemble Swedish Gripen jets for other air forces too, including the Canadian Air Force. Break the US stranglehold on military hardware.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hilarious if we called the company Avro. Will trigger Conservatives.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

A lot of talent is looking to leave the Dis-United States of Dumpster Fires. We could get back the talent that left when the arrow was cancelled.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

Conservatives sold out Canadians when they shut down Avro. Thanks garbage first-past-the-post for putting Canadians at higher risk.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Good! Those american F35's with the kill switch seem iffy.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

“We have no indication that this is possible,” Belgian Chief of Defence Gen. Frederik Vansina

“It is not possible to ‘remotely control’ or ‘block’ the F-35A fighter jets, for example by external intervention in the electronics,” according to ... the Swiss Department of Federal Defense. “Switzerland does not need consent if it wants to use its weapons systems or guided missiles for its own defense. It can do this autonomously, independently, and at any time.”

https://www.twz.com/air/you-dont-need-a-kill-switch-to-hobble-exported-f-35s

[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, if Ukraine and Canada both smoothly move towards building Gripen production it actually makes it safer for both parties as the strategic benefit of destroying a bottleneck in one country or the other goes down when the partner country can step in and assist for the duration it takes to repair the bottleneck.

This is how the strategic element of involving Canada would strengthen both Ukraine and Canada. It pays for both countries to have a full vertical stack of production capacity across the world from each other, it is just basic 'don't put all your eggs in one basket' thinking.

Canada is a relatively stable country that is highly educated and in most senses democratic, it makes a lot of sense to desire to have full production capacity there from a Ukrainian perspective in my opinion for a multitude of reasons but idk it is complicated and I from neither country so I am just giving a perspective here.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But we're still going to buy those shitty F35s...the Dodge of fighter planes.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

F-35s are amazing planes. What are you talking about?

What other plane is VTOL, stealth, and multi-role? The VTOL part is particularly good for England as it turns their assault carriers from something that can only hold helicopters and Harriers (a retired aircraft), into something that holds one of the best aircraft in the world.

[–] snowdrop@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amazing except they are brickable by the USA.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Simply ending support contracts cripples anything as complicated as a fighter jet quickly enough. This is true of all fighter jets.

https://www.twz.com/air/you-dont-need-a-kill-switch-to-hobble-exported-f-35s