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And here I was waiting to get unplugged, or maybe finding a Nokia phone that received a call.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"Robot, parse this statement, 'this sentence is false'." The robot explodes because it cannot understand a logical contradiction.

I swear, that's what this argument sounds like to me. Also, I'm genuinely confused why people don't think that, if we can simulate randomness with computers in our world with pseudo random number generators, why a higher reality wouldn't be able to simulate what we view as true randomness with a pseudo random number generator or some other device we cannot even begin to comprehend.

Either this paper is bullshit or they're talking about some sort of very specific thing that all these articles are blowing out of proportion.

I don't believe we are in a simulation but I don't believe this paper disproves it. Just like I don't believe in god but I don't believe the question "can god make a rock so big he can't pick it up?" disproves god.

[–] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 1 points 12 minutes ago

When we dream we often believe it to be reality, despite that in retrospect we can identify clear contradictions with logic in those dreams.

A Matrix-like simulation doesn't have to be perfect. We are a bunch of dumb-dumbs who will suspend disbelief quite easily and dismiss those who claim to see a different truth as crazy.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

This is exactly the kind of disinformation the simulation would send out to trick us.

[–] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

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[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] survirtual@lemmy.world 30 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

This paper is shit.

https://jhap.du.ac.ir/article_488_8e072972f66d1fb748b47244c4813c86.pdf

They proved absolutely nothing.

For instance, they treat physics as a formal axiomatic system, which is fine for a human model of the physical world, but not for the physical world itself.

You can't say something is "unprovable" and make a logical leap to saying it is "physically undecidable." Gödel-incompleteness produces unprovable sentences inside a formal system, it doesn’t imply that physical observables correspond to those sentences.

I could go on but the paper is 12 short pages of non-sequiturs and logical leaps, with references to invoke formality, it's a joke that an article like this is being passed around and taken as reality.

[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, simulation theory is kind of a joke itself. It’s a fun thought experiment, but ultimately it’s just solipsism repackaged.

In reality there’s no more evidence for it than there is for you being a butterfly dreaming it’s a man. And it seems to me that the only reason people take it at all seriously in the modern age is because Elon Musk said he believed it back when he had a good enough PR team that people thought he was worth listening to.

[–] kromem@lemmy.world 1 points 21 minutes ago

Have you bothered looking for evidence?

What makes you so sure that there's no evidence for it?

For example, a common trope we see in the simulated worlds we create are Easter eggs. Are you sure nothing like that exists in our own universe?

[–] Tehdastehdas@piefed.social 7 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

About that title...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(mathematics)

Matrix theory is the branch of mathematics that focuses on the study of matrices.

In mathematics, a matrix is a rectangular array of numbers or other mathematical objects with elements or entries arranged in rows and columns

So really The Matrix should have taken place in a two dimensional world.

Alternatively, I would also accept renaming the trilogy to The Array, The Matrix, and The Tensor.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I will prove that we're not in a simulation:

If we're in a simulation then whoever is operating it would not want us to know if we're in a simulation or not.

Anyone trying to check if we're in a simulation or not would be stopped by the operator.

I wasn't stopped by an operator hence there is no operator and we're not in a simulation.

Q.E.D.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Um, why? As a general rule, the point of running a simulation is to find out what happens under some circumstances where you don't know what happens. If you're imposing conditions like that, then you aren't so much running a simulation as you are running some kind of procedural generation.

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 points 11 hours ago

I'm kidding but since we're just playing I would say:

Let's imagine you want to know who will win the next election. You create detailed simulation of the entire population and run it until the voting day to see how they will vote. If the simulated population realized they are in a simulation the will obviously start behaving in a different way then the real population thus making your simulation useless.

So I would say unless the goal of the simulation is to see how fast will it realize it's just a simulation you would try to avoid them finding out.

Then again, checking if people will realize they are in a simulation is a valid reason to simulate them so it's possible we're in a simulation that is supposed to find out it's a simulation...

[–] CrystalRainwater@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 18 hours ago

Inside a turtle's dream theory still not disproven

[–] kalkulat@lemmy.world 15 points 23 hours ago

Oh those mathers. At least scientists are humble enough to recognize that theorums about the physical world can't be proven.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

we are a speck of excrement on the buttplug of reality during a gay porno film.

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"If we assume X theorem is true, Y theorem is true, and lemma Z is true, then ..."

This is actually about our models and seeing their incompleteness in a new light, right? I don't think starting from arbitrary axioms and then trying to build reality was about proving qualities about reality. Or am I wrong? Just seems like they're using "simulated reality" as a way to talk about our models for reality. By constructing a "silly" argument about how we can't possibly be in a matrix, they're revealing just how much we're still missing.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

That's just what they fucking want you to think.

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

It's possible that the universe could be simulated by an advanced people with vastly superior technology.

Hard solipsism has no answer and no bearing on our lives, so it's best to not give it another thought.

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