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[–] corvi@lemmy.zip 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh my god the legend dropped another 45 minute long dishwasher video. Unironically stoked.

[–] dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org 30 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

two 46 min videos. check connextras.

[–] webpack@ani.social 11 points 2 weeks ago

sir, a second dishwasher pod video has hit the channel

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I was just informed on another thread there are 5 dishwasher related ones.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 4 points 2 weeks ago

Babe, 90 minutes of Alex just dropped!

[–] CoyoteFacts@piefed.ca 39 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

The price of the eco-friendly detergent they're advertising is way too high to justify (17x the cost of my store brand). It's cool to know that a more powerful powder is possible, though.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have to agree, it's cool that they donate 100% of their profits, but I can't really justify the cost of that stuff compared to bog standard cascade powder.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Technology connections is the reason I buy basic powder. I got a small little countertop dishwasher, and it with the cheap powder gets my dishes so fucking clean it's insane! Had a badly burnt pan that came out looking factory fresh.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I can't even buy powdered detergent around home. I've tried about 20 stores now.

I ended up getting some Nellie's cubes, but honestly they kind of seem to suck.

[–] evulhotdog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Walmart is where we get ours, but normal grocery stores don’t tend to keep it, although I live in a generally more upscale area.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

tbh I haven't tried Walmart, as I'd prefer to not step foot in there

I'm surprised the dollar store across from it doesn't even have powdered detergent though. not even a little bit. just small packs of sacs.

[–] evulhotdog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I’m with you, that’s the only reason we go there and it’s specifically for that. When we buy it, we buy quite a few boxes so we don’t have to go back.

[–] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

They put the ingredients on the box. You can just mix your own. That's what I'm doing.

[–] psivchaz@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

I was so disappointed to see how expensive it is. I want to buy, I was prepared for it to be more expensive, and supporting charity is great. But they can't make it only say 3x the cost of competitors and still donate some profits to charity?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 14 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

As someone who doesn't watch this guy, what's the TL;DR?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 46 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Purging cold water from the pipes to your dishwasher with hot water before using it (by running the kitchen faucet on hot) can dramatically increase cleaning efficiency (Edit: though depending on if your dishwasher preheats the pre-rinse water with the heating element, may be a waste of water).

Powder detergent is better than pods because it allows you to put detergent in the pre-rinse cycle, and avoids adding microplastics to the water supply (the pods are contained in a dissolveable plastic).

The different modes on a washer can dramatically change its behavior and effectiveness (but seems to use a lot more water to do so).

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I really wish powder detergent worked with the fucking rock hard water we have here, but it creates a godawful crust on everything on the first wash. I just use an enzyme based liquid detergent instead, and it works perfectly well if I otherwise follow the same steps he recommends.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I also have hard water where I live, and I've found that leaving a cup (or two, if it's really bad) right-side up in the top rack and filling them with white vinegar before a wash will completely prevent any mineral buildup from forming in the load, as the acidity in the vinegar allows the minerals to dissolve into the water.

(if your water is only kinda hard, you can try only adding vinegar every second or third load, once you notice the mineral build-up. Even if you're in a really hard-water area, worth experimenting with how much you really need).

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ll have to give that a try! I use citric acid for cleaning cycles, but vinegar is cheaper.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Acid no bueno for the aluminum basket spindles on all modern washers. Better off sending in softened water.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Citric acid is the primary ingredient in most dishwasher cleaners. Of course, not a good idea to use it in every load. However, my DW manufacture suggests up to 10% citric acid solution as an alternative to rinse aid.

I haven’t seen any aluminum in a dishwasher, and I have noted that if I send any aluminum through it tarnishes like crazy and pits on repeat offenses. I don’t think that hot caustic water is any environment in which to design an aluminum part.

That said, again, dishwasher detergent is basic, so you’re right in that adding acid probably won’t improve the efficacy of the wash cycle.

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

That said, again, dishwasher detergent is basic, so you’re right in that adding acid probably won’t improve the efficacy of the wash cycle.

Though I can't confirm this, I suspect that the vinegar is mostly removed with the the pre-rinse water, which may negate or disrupt an added pre-rinse detergent, but should be mostly gone by the main wash to not effect the main load of detergent released at that time.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The spindle that supports the basket in washers is made of unprotected aluminum and designed to fail at about seven years of use. On Bosch models, they seal this in so it cannot be fixed.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Any sources on that?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Is there a way to do that with a sink hookup that also allows my sink hookup dishwasher to attach to it? I rent and don’t have access to the water heater, or the OK to mess with the guts of the sink, or open up a wall or anything like that.

Either way it’s not a big deal, worst case scenario I keep doing what’s been working fine.

[–] Fermion@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

https://www.mcmaster.com/product/8986T16

You could try something like that, then you would have to also pick some fittings to match whatever your dishwasher supply line uses. You would also need another short hose between the filter housing and your dishwasher. I think you could recharge the cartridge by soaking it in salt water occasionally, but otherwise they sell replacement cartridges.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sweet! I dunno if it’ll fit, but I’ll look into it.

[–] oasis@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Have you tried dishwashing salt?

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I have a dishwasher with a water softener, but have no idea where to buy the salt for it. (and I ain't looking on Amazon)

[–] oasis@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Most grocery stores have it where I live.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Have you varied the dosage? It may take some effort to overcome the chemistry. My DW manufacturer suggests as an alternative to rinse aid using a solution with no more than 10% citric acid, which may be an option.

Another option is to keep an eye out for used European style dishwashers; they often have softeners built in with a salt reservoir in the base. That assumes you can change the dishwasher which you may not be able to.

[–] chellomere@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

I knew the pods were sus. It's dissolveable plastic around them? Fucking excellent idea, right after leaded gas!

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He pinned a comment in the Connextras video pointing out that if you’ve have a decent dishwasher (yeah, I know he says any dishwasher works, but I’m an appliance elitist), running the water beforehand is probably a waste of resources as they have heaters in them. He alludes to this in the Connextras video too, noting that the water temp was rising.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have solar water panels on my roof so hot water costs nothing except just the water. Having the machine warm up cold water would cost electrical power. Glad to see this confirmed so I don't feel as nerdy about it.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ah well in that case, definitely.

Have you considered a recirculating pump?

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would have been nice, but our plumbing doesn't allow it. We would have to put in return pipes and that means tearing up the walls. Hard no, sadly.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Grundfos makes a valve that bridges hot and cold and automatically opens when the hot side is cool. It means your cold isn’t always cold and if your hot side isn’t potable it’s a problem, but might be a possibility. I use one in my system, because with on demand hot water I was running gallons down the drain waiting for hot water. https://www.amazon.co.uk/595926-Valve-grundfos-Recirculating-Bypass/dp/B0DN1D9P5B

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't fully understand how this works. The pump and valve are used to circulate hot water though the hot pipe and back through the cold pipe.

But... doesn't that mean you never have cold water? Because the cold pipe is by definition also hot now?

It seems as if this just shifts the problem from "wasting hot" to "wasting cold" to get the water you want.

[–] JordanZ@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Not the original person but I’ve looked into these. The answer is yes. The draw back to that type of system is if you want plain cold water then you’ll need to get through the luke warm water first.

Most houses have many loops of water pipes. So you’d want to put the valve somewhere you desire hot water more than cold. I find bathrooms would be more useful than the kitchen. Less wasted water when hopping in the shower, washing hands, or if you have a bidet (even just a cheap cold water one it would now be warm for awhile). In a kitchen it’s more ambiguous. I fill pots with cold water for cooking more than I probably want hot water for the dishwasher. Having not had a system like this personally I’m not sure if filling up a pot of water getting an initial charge of warm would really be noticeable though.

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah it’s confusing.

When the hot side of the valve is cold, the valve opens. When it’s hot, it closes. The pump pushes the cold water on the hot side through until warm water reaches the valve, then it closes, and the pump can just keep going without moving any water. As the water at the valve cools down again, the valve opens again.

With an aerator on the tap it’s not much more than a second of warm water so the wasted water isn’t really much volume at all - 100mL vs several litres. I also have a separate drinking water tap which is really my only cold water application so a bit of water at 30° instead of 18° doesn’t bother me.

[–] PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Thank you Flax, this was a very useful explanation! I will look into it and figure whether I can install it in a suitable place in my bathroom.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah but pods are delicious.

[–] Zikeji@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

Thanks ProdigalFrog! Good to know. I switched to pods a while back since they seemed to work better, but going on the conversation I may have to try the vinegar method.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This man does not understand the meaning of "no effort".

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"No effort", adjective, 1. A state of ease, i.e. a thing not requiring effort. 2. Alt., the state of spending months researching, testing, and involving lab work from dozens of people confirming an earlier niche hypothesis and to develop a new product, wiring "blinkin lights", running multiple experiments and make a 40 minute video showcasing all of this, i.e. a thing requiring more effort than is remotely reasonable.