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Fresh Proxmox install, having a dreadful time. Trying not to be dramatic, but this is much worse than I imagined. I'm trying to migrate services from my NAS (currently docker) to this machine.

How should Jellyfin be set up, lxc or vm? I don't have a preference, but I do plan on using several docker containers (assuming I can get this working within 28 days) in case that makes a difference. I tried WunderTech's setup guide which used an lxc for docker containers and a separate lxc of jellyfin. However that guide isn't working for me: curl doesn't work on my machine, most install scripts don't work, nano edits crash, and mounts are inconsistent.

My Synology NAS is mounted to the host, but making mount points to the lxc doesn't actually connect data. For example, if my NAS's media is in /data/media/movies or /data/media/shows and the host's SMB mount is /data/, choosing the lxc mount point /data/media should work, right?

Is there a way to enable iGPU to pass to an lxc or VM without editing a .conf in nano? When I tried to make suggested edits, the lxc freezes for over 30 minutes and seemingly nothing happens as the edits don't persist.

Any suggestions for resource allocation? I've been looking for guides or a formula to follow for what to provide an lxc or VM to no avail.

If you suggest command lines, please keep them simple as I have to manually type them in.

Here's the hardware: Intel i5-13500 64GB Crucial DR5-4800 ASRock B760M Pro RS 1TB WD SN850X NVMe

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[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

curl doesn't work on my machine, most install scripts don't work, nano edits crash, and mounts are inconsistent.

If your system is that fucked, I would wipe it and start over. And don't run any scripts or extra setup guides, they're not necessary.

Personally I run all my containers in a Debian VM because I haven't bothered migrating them to anything proxmox native. But gpu accel should work fine if you follow the directions from jellyfin: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/post-install/transcoding/hardware-acceleration/

Just make sure you follow the part about doing it in docker.

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[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It may be better now but I’ve always had problems with Docker in LXC containers; I think this has to do with my storage backend (Ceph) and the fact that LXC is a pain to use with network mounts (NFS or SMB); I’ve had to use bind mounts and run privileged LXCs for anything I needed external storage for.

Proxmox is about managing VMs and LXCs. I’d just create a VM and do all your docker in there. Perhaps make a second VM so you can shuffle containers around while doing upgrades.

If you plan to have your whole setup be exclusively Docker and you have no need for VMs or LXCs, then Proxmox might be a bunch of overhead you don’t need.

I use the LXCs for simple stuff that does a bare-metal type install within them, and I use the VMs for critical services like OPNSense firewall/routers. I also have a Proxmox cluster across three machines so I can live-migrate VMs during upgrades and prevent almost any downtime. For that use case it’s rock solid. It’s a great product and it offers a lot.

If you just need a single machine and only Docker, it’s probably overkill.

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well, the plan was to use a couple VMs for niche things that I'd love to have and many services. But if I can't get Proxmox working as advertised, I'll throw most of that out of the window

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The easiest solution if you want to have managed VMs IMHO is to just make a large VM for all your docker stuff on Proxmox and then you get the best of both worlds.

Abstracting docker into its own VM isn’t going to add THAT much overhead, and the convenience of Proxmox for management of the other VMs will make that situation much easier.

LXC for docker can be made to work, but it’s fiddly and it probably won’t gain you much in the long run.

Now, all these other issues you seem to be having with the Proxmox host itself; are you sure you have networking set up correctly, etc? curl should be working no problem; I’m not sure what’s going on there.

That's good to know at least. I was getting anxious last night thinking that I signed up for something I'd never get running. So curl is working now...not sure why it wasn't earlier, but I've used it since and it is confirmed working. And networking (as in internet connectivity) is working, but now I'm struggling with the NAS mount: it was working perfectly at first, but now it's randomly shifting between "available" and "unknown".

[–] webhead@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

https://community-scripts.github.io/ProxmoxVE/scripts?id=jellyfin

This is the way I'd imagine. I used this for Plex and this should make iGPU a lot easier.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (34 children)

How should Jellyfin be set up, lxc or vm

Either way. I prefer lxc, personally, but to each their own. lxc I think is drastically easier, in part because you don't need to pass through the whole GPU....

Is there a way to enable iGPU to pass to an lxc or VM without editing a .conf in nano?

You don't need to pass the igpu, you just need to give the LXC access to render and video groups, but yes, editing the conf is easiest. I originally wrote out a bunch here, then remembered there is a great video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZDr5h52OOE

My Synology NAS is mounted to the host, but making mount points to the lxc doesn’t actually connect data

Do they show up as resources? I add my mount points at the CLI personally, this is the best way imo:

pct set 100 -mp0 /mnt/pve/NAS/media,mp=/media

This is done from the host, not inside the LXC.

Does your host see the mounted NAS? After you added the mount point, did you fully stop the container and start it up again?

Edit: You can just install curl/wget/etc BTW, its just Debian in there.

apt install curl

Edit 2: I must have glossed over the mount part.

Dont add your network storage manually, do it through proxmox as storage, by going to Datacenter > Storage > Add, and enter the details there. This will make things a lot easier.

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[–] Tinkerer@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I run jellyfin on an LXC, so first get jellyfin installed personally I would separate jellyfin and your other docker containers, I have a separate VM for my podman containers. I need jellyfin up 100% of the time so that's why its separate.

Work on the first problem, getting jellydin installed I wouldn't use docker, just follow the steps for installing it on Ubuntu directly.

Second, to get the unprivileged lxc to work with your nas share follow this forum post: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/tutorial-unprivileged-lxcs-mount-cifs-shares.101795/

Thirdly, read through the jellyfin docs for hardware acceleration. Its always best practice to not just run scripts blindly on your machine.

Lastly take a break if you can't figure it out, when I'm stuck I always need to take a day and just think stuff over and I usually figure out why its not working by just doing that.

If you need any help let me know!

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So I got Jellyfin running last night as an unprivileged LXC using a community script. It's accessible via web browser, and I could connect my NAS. Now I'm having NAS-server connection issues and "fatal player" issues on certain items. I appreciate the support, I'm going to need a lot of it haha

[–] Tinkerer@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is most likely because of encoding. Did you change any settings in jellyfin for hardware acceleration? Have you passed theough your GPU? You will need to find out what codecs your GPU supports and enable those in the jellyfin hardware encoding spot.

[–] LazerDickMcCheese@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I tried taking a screenshot of the full page to show you, but yes it's set to QSV and /dev/dri/renderD128. I've tried QSV and VAAPI with similar results, I'm sticking with QSV for now as it's Jellyfin's official recommendation. I've enabled decoding for H264, HEVC, VP9, and AVI. I've enabled hardware encoding for H264 and HEVC. If I disable transoding completely it works fine, but some of the streaming devices need 720p functionality (ideally to transcode down to 4:3 480i).

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[–] ryokimball 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There is a helper script for jellyfin LXC. From memory I can't help much, but I suggest searching for that. I think the default specs for disk space and RAM were weak, But setup was easy enough. After the initial helper script, you will need to learn how to mount the NAS into the LXC as well.

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