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Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.

It follows a review which found depictions of choking were "rife" on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.

Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.

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[–] HexesofVexes@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago

You know, there's a fun observation to be made here: for every perversion you ban, the more niche ones move further up the view list. In essence, short of a complete porn ban (which is their final goal), they're likely to make the problem worse.

In terms of boys learning violence from this kind of porn - surely the online safety act is doing that right? Of course not; that act has failed gloriously and this proposed change evidences that.

The real solution they should be considering is strong messages about "safe, sane, consensual". Stick it up on posters, make it a mandatory banner on porn sites (who would complain, really), even take that shit into schools (it's good practice even for vanilla). The real issue isn't the acts themselves, it's the way we talk about them, or more don't!

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago

Dark fantasies and dark sex acts aren't the problem. Abusive partners are the problem

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

To anyone celebrating this: you're defending a fucking bad faith law!

Does any of the recent anti-LGBTQ+ laws are just to protect little Jimmy being a "little confused", to protect him from "making life altering decisions"? Did any of the Nazi anti-Jewish laws were only made to stop predatory banking? Fuck no! And fuck you if you think we can just "undo it easily later on: no one wants to be the "pervert politician", no one wants to be smeared by the opposition as "the real misogynist" or a "pervert being occupied with things other than the economy", so no one will do it.

I don't like choking in porn. The problem is a failure of both the lack of sexual education, and not holding platforms accountable for replatforming the likes of Andrew Tate, not some smut.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

I think you're also missing the part where some people are just legit into strangling.

One of my exes loved it, loved watching porn about it. Does she have to become a criminal now just to scratch her itch?

Prohibiting fantasies won't stop actual bad people, as it never has. I'd say we would be better off with education on how to do it safely if you're really into it, education of men on how to do this respectfully, again, of both are legit into it.

We should also makke sure it's very clear for women facing abusive partners that they can leave, that they won't lose everything they got, that they won't lose their family, that they won't face stigmatization, and we should make sure that they have all resources available to get back on their feet

Dark fantasies and dark sex acts aren't the problem. Abusive partners are the problem

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[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I am... Rather older than most of you, in all probability. My partner likes being choked; not hard, not actually cutting off air or blood, but the sensation of hands or an arm around their throat. They also like being caned, and spanked; I'm into fairly serious rope bondage (as a rope top) and CNC.

Under British law, a large percentage of the sexual activities that we both enjoy together would be criminal offenses.

For what it's worth, in the 1920s, oral sex was considered shocking to moral sensibilities, perverted, an affront against nature, and grotesquely obscene. I suspect that the view from the year 2100--should humanity survive that long--will see choking in much the same way.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've never been choked, but I like to hold my breath right as I'm about to ejaculate (cause it makes the orgasm stronger for some reason), so I could absolutely see the appeal. So long as it's consentual, I see no issue with choking in sex.

The US and UK are in a race to see who can out-Fash the other.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It sure seems like the puritans are in charge these days. And their using kids to ram through whatever the fuck they want. As long as no one is getting hurt, I dont really see what business it is of any government what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes. I mean, even if you were choking her out, as long as it was what she wanted, its really up to you two to take on the risks.

I dont understand it, but who cares? Im not in the room. Its nothing to do with me, or anyone else. I cant help but feel this is the beginning of something a bit more sinister. Maybe someday soon, blow jobs will be looked down upon again. Or far more likely, being gay will be looked down upon again. Cos thats where these weirdos always look to when they talk about things "corrupting the youth". A bit of slap and tickle first, attack the LGBT crowd next under the guise of protecting the children/young people. "Youre not gay, youve just seen too many blowjobs, Timmy. Youll be alright after we send you to a re-education camp."...

[–] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Won't be any kids to protect soon as the raging inequality continues to rise and people become completely unable to afford them.

[–] Semester3383@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Why do you think that sex ed is being banned, they're trying to prevent people from having access to porn, and womens' reproductive care is being sharply limited? They know kids are gonna fuck if they don't have any other outlet, and kids are going to fuck unsafely. Then they've got the babies that they need to keep delivering Amazon packages and assembling iPhones.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

If the argument for the ban is that depiction normalizes it, then there should be a ban on violence in all media, right?

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

But what if I like being choked? UwU

[–] horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Is this an admission that we as a species can no longer tell the difference between fantasy and reality?

What's next, banning wrestling and boxing matches? No more war films?

[–] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The morality police in the UK strike again. They're slowly turning into Saudi Arabia the longer they keep this up.

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[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The way they define choking would also ban a lot of sucking scenes.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's the goal. First ban kink that are more extreme, but word the ban vague enough to be applicable to other things.

We call this kind of bad faith laws as "shotgun laws", due to how reminiscent they're to the operation of shotgun-type weapons from video games.

[–] lolola@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 5too@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Video game shotguns have a lot more spread than actual shotguns

[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago (4 children)

So men don't get choked? Why are these things always gender specific?

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like to get a little choked every now and then, during. Am I illegal?

[–] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes I recommend you handcuff yourself immediately, maybe tie yourself up a bit, you’ve been pretty naughty

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[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I suppose I would file this one under massive sex education failure, if youths are having to learn about sex from porn there's already a problem.

[–] lka1988@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago

I already don't like that kind of shit, it's an immediate turn-off for me.

But - I also know there's a whole kink around it, and as long as it's consensual.....who tf cares?

[–] Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 98 points 3 days ago (34 children)

Jfc more conservative pearl clutching censorship laws in supposedly developed countries? What a time to be alive.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago

Yea, this will surely work out.

/s

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 54 points 3 days ago (12 children)

What's next? BDSM?

Only porn allowed will be missionary position?

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[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Might be a good idea to say which government when you're posting to world news?

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[–] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don’t disagree that it’s troubling how mainstream choking is in modern porn. It’s definitely been a huge shift. There’s nothing against it as a fetish, but it being a fetish with potential harmful consequences suggests that it should be in the same category as BDSM - something which can be problematic unless it’s done as an exercise in trust between partners with full informed consent.

And there have been plenty of seemingly not agenda-led studies which suggest that teen boys and girls are both picking up a lot of what they consider to be “normal” about sex from porn.

And not even talking to each other about it. IIRC, there was one such study which had both boys and girls engaging in a particular behaviour (I forget exactly which, maybe even choking), and neither party actively enjoyed the behaviour, they were just doing it because they thought that’s what you do and therefore what their partner wanted.

But is the solution to ban porn which features choking? Firstly, I don’t see how this could in any way be effective. How would you possibly enforce it? Are police really going to raid people’s homes based on suspicion that they’ve got a nowadays-vanilla porn video on their harddrive? The police literally don’t have enough resources to investigate and prosecute everybody creating and sharing child porn. And now they’re supposed to go after everybody who visits PornHub?

Secondly, we’re basically talking about a de-facto porn ban because, as the consultation itself noted, that describes pretty much all porn made in the last 10-15 years.

I’m not sure what the solution is. I mean, talking about the difference bewteen porn and sex is something that should be part of sex education at school. But I kind of assume it already is? It would be weird if it weren’t in 2025.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to engage with creators themselves? I know that several porn companies used to put disclaimers before their videos saying that there’s a difference between porn sex and real sex and talking about consent. Several BDSM porn producers also have pre and post-shoot interviews with the performers and make sure they talk on camera about safe words & gestures and consent.

But then that’s something that’s probably not going to be terribly effective in any case and which would require absolutely everybody to get on board, which would have been basically impossible back when it was only really studios producing content, and 100% impossible now that OnlyFans etc are the way that most performers make and distribute porn.

I don’t think it’s an easy question to answer, TBH, but I’m pretty sure that “ban all the porn” isn’t the correct solution.

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[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 3 days ago

Search: How to do the Heimlich maneuver? YouTube: sorry this video has been deleted for depicting scenes of people choking.

[–] Luvs2Spuj@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

I'll forward any I find to my local MP

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