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Israel trying to pass the hospital bombing off as Palestine doing it is utterly disgusting and guarantees Netanyahu a spot in the deepest pit of Hell for all eternity, obviously, but do not forget that

a) the only reason why Westerners will believe it is because they want to believe it - they are not being brainwashed and this is not some masterful propaganda being weaved around us to turn kind-hearted people into monsters,

b) no Westerner opinions matter at all. In most Western countries there is no real anti-Israel option to vote for even if they did realize that Israel was a giant factory for crimes against humanity, and Westerners protesting against things in general almost never achieves anything (tens of millions protested for BLM in 2020 and not only did the situation not change, it got worse), and

c) the people whose opinions do matter (both the people in the region, and the leaders who aren't already Zionist compradors) already know that Israel is full of shit and that they just murdered nearly a thousand civilians in a single bomb attack.

It is despair-inducing to think that the genocidal Zionist entity is so brazenly, so smugly getting away with bullshitting this away into a cloud of confusion, as they release their metaphorical squid ink just like they did with the stupid babies story, but the propaganda and the media narrative that they are creating isn't what matters. It cannot address the fundamental contradictions ripping the country, the region, and the world apart any more than masterfully-applied makeup can fix a stab wound. It can merely obfuscate.


If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine! Feel free to chime in with books, essays, longform articles, even stories and anecdotes or rants.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly update isn't coming because I'm sick and too focussed on the collapse of the Zionist entity.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Hezbollah's attrition warfare on the Lebanese/Palestinian borders, information according to Nasser Kandil :

Hezbollah destroyed Al Abad and Ruaisat Al Alam Israeli bases on the Lebanese borders. These are the biggest electronic warfare bases in the Middle East. At Al Alam, between 200 to 300 workers and engineers go there everyday. Estimated damage of sophisticated equipment on the borders amounts to 20 billion $, which was built over a 30+ years period.

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[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)
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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hamas military spoxs says that they are holding between 200 and 250 hostages.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Ongoing fighting in multiple locations in the West Bank between Israeli raids and local resistance.

Video is Nur Shams in Tulkarm https://streamable.com/bo8dn3

Aqabat Jaber camp in Jericho https://streamable.com/oe2661

Others but no video.

[–] gregheffley@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

American bourgeoisie be like: don’t worry guys, this is just a rough couple weeks. After all, it’s not like decades could happen.

[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mr Burgess reiterated that ASIO was anticipating "spontaneous violence" arising from Australian protests being held in response to the Israel-Gaza war, and urged all members of the community to avoid using "inflamed language".

"What ASIO worries about is not protest and counter-protest," he said.

"We look for those small number of individuals that have an ideology that thinks violence is the answer, or any individual that actually goes to violence in the promotion of their political cause or promoting communal violence.

"And when they do, that's an act of terrorism and we and the police will act swiftly."

the line between protest and terror blurs

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[–] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Axis of Resistance steps up its activities following Abu Obeida's speech in which he states,

"We call on the masses of our nation everywhere to defend their dignity and Al-Aqsa."

⦿ 🇮🇶 Iraqi resistance targets US military base Ain al-Asad. Meanwhile, trucks filled with Iraqis head for the Iraqi-Jordanian border.

⦿ 🇸🇾 Drone attack on US occupation base in Al-Tanf, in southern Syria, explosions sound in Conoco gas field in Deir Ezzor, where US occupation forces are stationed.

⦿ 🇾🇪 USS Carney intercepts missiles in the Red Sea off the coast of Yemen.

⦿ 🇱🇧 Hezbollah targets several Israeli military positions across the border.

⦿ 🇵🇸 Resistance in Gaza launches barrage of rockets toward Tel Aviv, while resistance in Nour Shams refugee camp in the occupied West Bank city of Tulkarem continues to confront invading Israeli forces — in a violent raid that has been ongoing for 20 hours.

https://t.me/thecradlemedia/8881

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (15 children)
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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Seeing as Tel Aviv was shelled when Blinken visited, will the same happen when Biden visits? I assume sending the US president to a bomb shelter will result in something crazy

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[–] captcha@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Current Israeli line (taken from /r/worldnews) on the hospital is the bomb was a jihadi rocket misfire, but it also didn't destroy the hospital and kill 500+ people. Instead it just landed in a parking lot and blew up a bunch of cars.

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[–] KittyBobo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Decades? But those could take weeks to happen, I can't wait that long!

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

another criticism of stalin has left me since apparently Gromyko was the one who pushed for the creation of Israel, and Stalin had little to do with it

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago

Exit poll:

Sergio Massa: 37% (Socdem Man)

Javier Milei: 27% (Ancap guy)

Patricia Bullrich: 24% (Neoliberal Woman)

It would be funny af if Massa won on the first round, just to see the lolbertarians crying.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago (6 children)

A CNN nat sec guy was speaking about Lebanon and he said "We are seeing a lot of animosity." And there could be "third and fourth level impacts in the US".

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[–] edge@hexbear.net 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

C-SPAN callers are amazing.

I don't care if they elect Satan, Jeffries is a communist.

[–] GVAGUY3@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Milei fans using Chainsaw Man memes is not something I'm a fan of. Pochita deserves better.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It's wild to me how literally no candidate is worth voting for next year and they'll all make the war in Gaza so much more worse. Okay maybe not Cornel West? But lets be honest, burger brains are not going to let him anywhere fucking near the levers of power, lol

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Israeli Foreign Ministry advises Israelis to avoid traveling to the Maldives

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[–] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/least-500-victims-israeli-air-strike-hospital-gaza-health-ministry-2023-10-17/

Israeli Military spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari told reporters rockets fired by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant group passed by the hospital at the time of the strike, which he said hit the facility's parking lot... He said the [IDF] military did have an Israeli air force operation in the area around the time of the hospital blast, "but it was with a different kind of ammunition that does not ... fit the footage that we have (of) the hospital."

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[–] AtomPunk@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Has there ever been a case of retaliation against people who donate to leftist causes (ex: bail for BLM protestors)? The least I could do was donate to a group pledging medical aid to Palestine, as I feel useless otherwise. My only worry is retaliation from bloodthirsty Israel supporters; even the liberals are baying for blood, and sending medical aid to Palestinians would put donors in their crosshairs.

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[–] zephyreks@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Oops looks like I got banned from /r/onguardforthee for asking for evidence.

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Holy mother of fuck - how many 1,000 times is Biden going to "reaffirm the United States’ support" and talk about "Israel’s right to defend itself"?

Biden spoke with Netanyahu on Friday, White House says

US President Joe Biden spoke Friday morning with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, following up on humanitarian assistance plans agreed to earlier this week in Tel Aviv and discussing hostage relief efforts, the White House said.

“The President reaffirmed the United States’ support for Israel’s right to defend itself and obligation to protect its citizens, while underscoring the importance of operating consistent with the law of war to include the protection of civilians in Gaza caught in the conflict launched by Hamas," the White House said in a readout.

"The President and Prime Minister discussed follow-up from the President’s visit to Israel earlier this week, including plans to begin moving humanitarian assistance into Gaza from Egypt," the readout continued. They also discussed “ongoing efforts to secure the release of hostages taken by Hamas – including US citizens –and to provide for safe passage for U.S. citizens and other civilians in Gaza,” the readout said.

The leaders and their teams have been in close contact since Hamas first attacked Israel on October 7. Biden met with Netanyahu on Wednesday in Tel Aviv, and the two spoke on October 8; 10 and 11.

https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-20-23/h_7e0ca28af0ce227f420dc084dbf57e49

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

NEW: According to reports, the IDF took a large number of casualties in the most recent ATGM attack on Branit barracks

As a response to this, the IDF is violently shelling South Lebanon and direct clashes on the border are also reported.

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Explosions have been reported near the U.S. Military’s Victory Base Complex close to Baghdad International Airport in the Iraqi Capital City.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Head of the Israeli National Security Council: "The Lebanese state is a hostage in the hands of Hezbollah"

Head of the Israeli National Security Council: "We will return Lebanon to the Stone Age if we attack Hezbollah"

[–] captcha@hexbear.net 43 points 2 years ago

Watching aljezeera on IPTV stream. Current status, Hamas has released two american hostages as a sign of good faith for negotiations. US has not responded yet but has delayed normal updates so they're probably thinking about their response.

Oldest church in Palestine was bombed.

Another hospital has claimed they have been given an evacuation order from Israel. So look out for another hospital bombing.

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