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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago
[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They are choosing to devote vast amounts of finite earth resources on their space man hobbies instead of using any of it to fix or improve the situation on earth, in their countries or for anyone else other than themselves. These people should be dragged out of their comfortable lives for crimes against humanity.

[–] FatVegan@leminal.space 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They have nothing to improve. Their life is great. And that's the problem.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

And when earth will inevitably be uninhabitable for humans, they will fuck off to space and let us die here.

[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yea, it is.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 days ago

If billionaires are the ruling class, then it's a policy success.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

The fact that there are billionaires is the sign that they're not being taxed enough.

Massive infrastructure / R&D projects like a space race is actually one of the more productive ways that billionaires could use their money.

[–] senorseco@lemmy.today 14 points 3 days ago (11 children)

It's not a policy failure at all. It's a systemic feature. Capitalism is dog eat dog until only one dog remains. If you want to fix it you need a new economic system.

Thr government is supposed to enforce regulations in a capitalistic market like ours.

Amazon should have been torn a new asshole for some of the anti competitive things they've done for example, which would have maybe prevented or at least slowed what happened.

Google should have been broken up ages ago

And so on.

The rules and regulations are there, it's just become so corrupt they aren't being enforced.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Seize their assets, fund NASA.

That's how you actually make America great.

the thing is that NASA did indeed try to build reusable spaceships themselves back in 1968 with the space shuttle. the thing is: they didn't make it. their space shuttle sucked and cost more than non-reusable rockets. Then some 30 years later SpaceX came along and somehow did the impossible, which is to build reusable rockets that are actually cheaper than the previous, non-reusable rockets. So, that's a big step forward. As a consequence, NASA started paying SpaceX for the fine product they were making that they tried to make themselves previously but failed.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 52 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Meanwhile I'm being taxed far too much

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They've been allowed to game the system to hoard way more wealth than any single person should have been able to. They were supposed to pay their employees more, charge less to their customers or if all fails pay more taxes. But they didn't do any of that.

If this was a video game that would be called an "exploit that breaks the gameplay experience for everyone else" and it would have been solved in a patch. But to remain in the same analogy, they are buddies with the game developers so they're allowed to do anything they want. The only difference is that everyone in the country is forced to play this broken game as it is.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I've played fallout for more than 2 decades. How the fuck are we diving face first into every sci-fi dystopia at the same time? Like, there's hints of star wars, dune, fallout, 1984, the outer worlds, hunger games, Idiocracy etc. I'm hoping cyberpunk 2077 shows up and gives a sliver of a chance.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because those things were based on the real world and we are very bad at learning from the ever-growing list of mistakes we can’t stop making.

Cyberpunk 2077 is not a good world and does not have a good ending. That world is a horrid, capitalist dystopia. Maybe you should watch Edgerunners if you still can’t figure it out from the game.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The point was that as bad as cyberpunk's future is, I'm fairly certain ours will be worse in 52 years. At least in their timeline there's a resistance.

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[–] zaki_ft@lemmings.world 11 points 3 days ago

The main reason is because people are stupid and get taken advantage of accordingly.

Every time you saw a moron say "they're a business and they need to make money!" you saw someone lowering their standards to make a rich person richer.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Either not taxed enough or there's almost no competition in the thing they do. And in a healthy free market, there should definitely be competition in a field that nets that much profits. The logical conclusion is that something is actively preventing the competition.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago (4 children)

In a free market, competition has end results. Buisnes don't just keep competing with one another ad infinitum. One of them eventually cant keep up and closes shop. It's competitors expand into the space it previously filled. This process repeats until you have fewer and fewer firms that account for more and more of their sector of the economy. New business do not have resources to eke out space in an already filled niche.

Under a long enough time frame, a free market creates less competition.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yep. People love free markets, but they really only benefit billionaires. The idea that free markets lead to a better society is bunk and should be abandoned along with every other capitalist lie.

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that nets that much profits

that's kinda the issue, building rockets isn't all that profitable. they do it anyways because they believe in the vision and that it will pay off long-term, just not short-term

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

These assholes get taxed 1-2% on their total wealth increases per year - and even that gets offset with their loopholes - meanwhile the average people pay anywhere between 30-50% of just their income (and that doesn't account for other taxes like VAT, property, vehicle and road taxes, and so on).

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

And not only that, but if you taxed them at 99% they’d still have silly amounts of money and ungodly financial security while even 20% off a poor person being paid by a less rich local business is just hurting the both of them. Taxes are a good thing but like you say they are horrendously unbalanced.

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No one should have enough money to purchase entire branches of government. Musk could give every member of congress 10 million and still be a billionarie many times over. That kind of wealth is not compatible with democracy.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

90% should be the minimum after 1 million a year

[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'd go for 99% after 5 bil

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago

If you've got money to waste on doing the same space shots that they've been doing for the last 65 years, just with newer technology, all while people in America are hungry, and suffering from lack of health care, then we should take away everything they own, and redistribute it to the people. We can even name each distribution after the benefactor. First we'll have the Musk distribution, then the Bezos, distribution, then the Ellison distribution, etc.

And their companies, primarily created and made profitable by government grants and tax breaks, belong to the American people, and they should be confiscated, and operated for the profit benefit of the American people. To make it fair, the billionaire, and his descendents, will always have an entry level job available, at entry level wages, but they will be treated like any other employees, and can be fired without rehiring privileges. They aren't entitled to any special treatment, other than a guaranteed job. After that, they have to behave themselves.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I think we just need to send them into space... Forcibly. Permanently.

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[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (10 children)

I say we put them all in a rocket and shoot them into space...

That's it. Problem solved.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I say we put them all in a rocket and shoot them into space…

you're not gonna believe this but that's actually what they're trying to do.

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago
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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago (5 children)

It's a clear sign the government isn't, itself, spending enough on spaceflight and associated R&D.

Turning our next generation of economic and military supremacy over to the dipshit horn dogs that tanked retail sales and fucked up the post office seems like a huge mistake.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 12 points 4 days ago

it isn't. it is an intended best case scenario for those invested. capitalism rewards trickery and thievery. excess wealth is part of its system dependent on class hierarchies. it was millionaires before billionaires and now we're about to have our first trillionaire. for fucks sake.

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