I demand a more clear plan. Let's assume the files contain damming evidence Trump raped kids, evidence that would have any ordinary citizen immediately arrested. What will happen next? Impeachment? Prosecution? Since he wasn't president when he committed those crimes, he shouldn't have immunity but he probably will somehow.
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“Democrats made it a political issue”
trump literally campaigned on releasing the files. Vance promised to release the files after they took office.
How the fuck are the people seriously trying to claim that trump is innocent, yet releasing the files would be damaging to him?
How in the holy hell is it political to seek for those who commit crimes to be exposed and punished?
A great question for republicans. Especially those who claim to care about the rule of law.
This is such a crazy mental exercise of them to witness.
Literally Orwell's double thinking.
Raping children is a political issue? That's a weird thing to say, Mike.
Remember when it used to be non-controversial to say nazis are bad?
Peppridge farm remembers.
Edit: couldn't help myself:
Next it'll be up for debate whether murder, arson, and burglary should stay illegal
No, those will stay on, it's just certain people will be justified.
They really trying to have the same model Russia has. Theoretically they have legislature, courts, rule of law, but not really. One person has final word on everything.
Why would it bring down Trump if there's nothing in the files as they say?
How DARE the Democrats try to get to the Bottom of a GLOBAL CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING RING! How DARE they!
Yes, their motivation can ONLY BE political
Does he know something we don't know? Like they've already destroyed evidence or some other tactic to hide his obvious guilt. Trump sycophants are leading the CIA, FBI, DOJ. I have zero trust or faith in our system. No rule of law for the elites, no checks and balances.
Trump is guilty and belongs in prison along with everyone covering for him.
Trump is suddenly pushing for their release. So yeah, whatever destruction of info/etc they've been working on for the past several months has been done.
There are multiple copies of the files, in many hands - I don't think editing is possible anymore. I could be wrong.
What I am expecting is Trump to just say "there see I told you, it's nothing" even as it's salacious and incriminating as hell, and Fox News carries that message, and people just move on, as our society hits a new low.
Trump is pushing for investigations by the DOJ into the Democrats on the list - which effectively makes the files unable to be released to the public during the investigation.
Same pedophile protection, different path.
That is another thing happening. Not the only thing.
Trump raped kids.
Nothing about the way he has handled the Epstien investigation makes sense UNLESS he raped children.
There is no word in my vocabulary that captures how disgusted I am with Mike Johnson and the rest. They know he's a child fucker. They're not stupid enough to believe otherwise.
Soulless, inhuman, evil pieces of shit. Every bad thing that happens to him for the rest of his life will be less than he deserves.
I do find it funny that all of this coulda been avoided had Trump's campaign not made Epstein an issue.
Actually, had trump just shut his fat orange mouth and stayed in his criminal lane, he would still be quietly scamming people and may never have been caught. But his ego flared up like terminal herpes and he had to be the "president". He put himself in the spotlight, he deserves every bad thing that happens to him. I wouldn't doubt he had a hand in killing Epstein. Then again, he is as dumb as a broken rock. He thinks no one knows what magnets are, what a "stable" genius.
My desire for the people on Epstein's list to go to jail has nothing to do with who they are.
Fun fact. Bill Donohue, the President of the Catholic League, is saying that it's not pedophilia to rape minors, if they are going through puberty. That's right, another Catholic shit stain is justifying the current Republican Narrative that rape of minors isn't half bad.
This was disgusting to read. For one, arguing in any capacity that it is acceptable to rape children between the ages of 11 and 14, and that it's not a church problem because most of those children were boys, is absolutely heinous.
But they don't stop there!!?! They essentially brush over that 22% of victims WERE prepubescent?! That's still many thousands of pedophiles, even if you want to argue that most of the rapists are um actually hebaphiles?!
Vile af. The propaganda never stops. I am so disturbed by the direction of the 21st century so far.. ugh.
This is what makes Schumers actions last week make even less sense.
He had Trump on the ropes. He could have had Republicans dismantle the fillibuster.
Then a Epstein vote coasts through.,
That would require schumer to actually be useful. And that’s not who he is.
He's useful for the people who pay him. Just not the people who he is meant to represent, or the party as a whole.
He represents AIPAC, not New York.
A possible vote on the Epstein files is apparently worth sacrificing healthcare and SNAP for millions of Americans and making Republicans worried about consequences.
Controlled opposition.
Yeah but like, you still could have forced Republicans to own actually shitting those programs down.
Nah, clearly the out of touch DNC knows something we don't. Giving Republicans what they want is somehow good, according to them and the bootlickers here.
My theory is that he traded the release of these files. Still questionable at best.
My theory is that he's a neoliberal corporatist traitor who decided to sabotage the party because the socialists and progressives did too well in the election. Can't have success associated with a leftward shift, ever, at all costs -- even capitulating to fascist pedos for zero gain.
Absurd. I get that you want everything to be black and white. It's certainly easier to just rage indiscriminately. But it's not productive.
It's far less absurd than what you first suggested.
Schumer outright said his primary allegiance is to Israel.
if dumpy isn't in the files that apparently don't exist (despite being 20K files being released just a few days ago...), then why would it bring down dumpy's regime?
Why not release this nothingburger?
Think of the childre... oh, we're not doing that now?
they do, every night.
As we've learned, trump's hands may be 'clean', but that mouth sure isn't.
It's the current game plan because it's got high visibility, the people want less pedos, not less pesos.
Nothing about Trump is clean
Bitch is guilty. Full stop
Mike Johnson accused Democrats of “cherry pick[ing] three emails out of 20,000 documents” to “try and imply that the president was guilty.”
Buttery emails anyone?
Yup prop your candidate and use as the scapegoat classic shooting yourself in the foot..
But how exactly will they bring him down? He made a deal with the devil so he can never face consequences for anything.
Yeah, all the Republicans' souls in exchange for his freedom.
And they are right...?