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[–] geekworking@lemmy.world 339 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Or maybe you don't install a data mining spy device in the office?

[–] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So keep cell phone in lockers, no smart TVs, and no Alexa or similar devices.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Someone should invent the pocket microwave

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They can call it the hot pocket

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Is it any different than speaking in front of your smartphone?

I don't own an echo or Google whatever but I've definitely mentioned things and then got ads for that thing within the hour/day. Like cat litter when I don't even own a cat, just mentioned it once for cleaning up spills.

[–] Seudo@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More likely there's a bunch of data points it can use. Coming within BT range of someone who does have a cat for example. Otherwise all the major smart phone companies would need to be in collision to keep the secret because the battery drain would be so blatant of it was recording, processing, transfering etc.

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[–] Taniwha420@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I don't have a smoking gun for Google advertising based on conversation, but I mentioned in an email (Gmail) that someone I know was going to the Calgary Stampede, and Google Ads flogged Stetson cowboy hats and the Stampede for weeks after that. It was so conspicuous because normally it's just, "hot singles in your area", "hot Christian singles in your area?" maybe, "hot Christian moms in your area?" Nowadays it's like, "grannies near you want to fuck." FML.

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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 116 points 2 years ago

If the patient's name is Alexa, you're gonna have a bad time

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 94 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You're all missing the real kicker here - this sign is only here for the HIPAA auditor. Everyone knows that no one is actually going to mute the thing.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago (53 children)

Also muting it probably doesn't stop it listening, it just stops its response.

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[–] Devouring@lemmy.world 84 points 2 years ago (8 children)

It's fascinating how people know that these devices break their privacy, yet they keep using them.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

Convenience is one of the most addictive drugs.

[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] MrFlamey@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do they even have an Amazon echo if they know it's a fucking security risk? If you need a speaker, just get a speaker, not one a spyker (sorry, that was shite)

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago

Maybe just don’t have any big tech surveillance devices in the hospital/clinic/whatever.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Friendly reminder to pause your bleeple before you buttlebode your over-driver. You do not want (CCF) cloud confederation forces to scuttle your bodes.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Syd@lemm.ee 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

May his noodly appendage touch you.

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[–] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 50 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But Jeff Benzos is the biggest pharamcist in the world now, so it's fine

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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 42 points 2 years ago (5 children)

And by muted they mean pull the plug

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

And by pull the plug I mean smash it with a fucking hammer

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[–] Kevnyon@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Shit like this is why I got a dumb speaker. It just plays audio, it doesn't have a battery (meaning that unplugged = zero power), it doesn't have wifi, it doesn't have an assistant, it just plays the music I ask it to play via Bluetooth.

[–] areyouevenreal@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 9 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Why not go further and hardwire?

[–] BilboBargains@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why not take up the kazoo?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 years ago

~~muted~~ thrown in the trash where it belongs

[–] CyberDine@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate it when acronyms aren't clearly defined... PHI stands for Protected Health Information.

[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is almost certainly in a provider setting, in which all covered employees will have received extensive training detailing what "PHI" stands for.

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[–] RealWarrenBuffett@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

We're living in a dystopian future...

[–] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

IoT and smart device security only means your data is protected from unauthorized access. It's up to the manufacturer, not the user to decide who can get in.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Big brother is listening...

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

FYI: Mutung the echo/Alexa/Google home/etc doesn't stop it from listening, just from making noise itself.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago (9 children)

This is not true. I hate these companies, but don't spread misinformation. This one is easy to verify.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Curious to learn how would you verify it. Wouldn't one has to go as low level as power spikes? Not to sound paranoid but one can't just believe the PR these companies said. Consequently we have to check how the device behaves. It's not because it doesn't send information that it does not process it. One could imagine it logs on specific behavior or keywords and only send information back when "normal" behavior is expected, e.g update check. I'm not trying to imply this is the case, only that verifying doesn't seem "easy" to me.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You can check network activity while it's muted and while it's not muted to see when it's phoning home. And if you're still worried, keep it on mute for an extended period of time and then turn it on again to see whether it transmits the backlog or not. Easy to proof.

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[–] WarlordSdocy@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The sources people use here seem to confirm it being a hardware mute that cuts off power to the mic. https://iot.stackexchange.com/questions/2382/is-the-amazon-echo-mic-mute-a-hardware-switch

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