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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 9 points 14 hours ago

It became inevitable that the files would release

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Trump calls an emergency, no phones, meeting with Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, Bondi is the one who will be releasing the files

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Trump does a 180° on trying to block the release

They for sure fucked with the files

[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago (4 children)

They'll be doctored like hell, I'm sure of it.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago

They release all the files, except those that concern "national security".

Guess what people at the FBI did over the last months? Classify Epstein files...

[–] pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The list:

Don(REDACTED)

(REDACTED)ump

D(REDACTED)

Sleepy Joe

President Tr(REDACTED)

Bubba

Tru(REDACTED)

The Libs

(REDACTED)ald Trump

Crooked Hillary

Barack HUSSEIN Obama

(REDACTED)mp

Eric Trump

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think the LA times wrote a piece about this in the past day or two, the doctoring was done when Trump took office and had the Justice Department redact all references to him "as a private citizen" which is some bullshit. But look at what's already come through, thousands of pages with hundreds of references to Trump, unredacted and incriminating, I wonder if the idiots he hired to scour through the files actually did it, or just cashed their checks and ran like the rest of Elon's DOGE bullshit.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's safe to assume anything redacted is Trump. They have the burden of proof to say it's not.

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"It's not Trump."

"Okay, prove it!"

"UM... oh look, a squirrel!"

[–] pivot_root@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

If only it were that easy. A conversation with one of them would go something more like this:

"It's not Trump."

"Okay, prove it!"

"I don't need to because THIS IS AMERICA, and it's INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY."

"Like the people arrested by ICE?"

"THEY WERE CRIMINALS!"

"Even the 93% without criminal records?"

"THAT'S FAKE NEWS, LIBTARD"

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The thing is, enough people have seen the files, including Biden era prosecutors, Trump 1 prosecutors, victims, former and current FBI, etc. who can testify to the fact that evidence has been altered.

[–] lemmylump@lemmy.world 98 points 1 day ago (6 children)

The only no vote came from Rep. Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican who is a fervent supporter of Trump. He also chairs a subcommittee that initiated a subpoena on the Justice Department for the Epstein files.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok that means Trump told the rest to vote for it. The files are altered or deleted. Let's ask comey. I bet he knows.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Not surprising given his viscous performance 3 months ago trying to prevent a motion to release the files from even being brought forth in the House Oversight Committee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1snbEmwVK8

Actually only 1 no vote is quite surprising.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

He also chairs a subcommittee

One of the big things we need fixed is that shit just being based on seniority.

When the person from the controlling party with the longest time on that specific committee is defacto chair, people will never relinquish a committee seat. They'll hold one they don't actually care about for decades blocking others because some day they might get chair and get bonus "donations" from whatever industry you're supposed to reign in.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

He must have misread the legislation. Stupid mundane details.

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 66 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Guaranteed this gets hung up in Senate, on Trump's desk or because of the DOJ's 'investigation' and they try to never release it.

[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 61 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd like to buy the "blocked by on-going investigation" square, please. It's so obvious.

[–] 0ops@piefed.zip 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was basically his excuse with his tax returns right? I wouldn't be shocked in the least if this is his next move

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[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Supposedly the bill is specifically about removing this excuse, because it's been used in the past with other prominent cases too.

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think it's more likely that they'll just release all the files except for those which mention Trump and his allies, or edit out such references and pass it off as the genuine article.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Redacted. Yeah. Bondi will bookend it with “no collusion” so all the MAGA troglodytes can chatter how innocent the demented rapist fraud is.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

If you've seen what was in the last batch of Epstein emails/texts, it shouldn't be a surprise. That's the shit they leaked? What are they holding back? My god, how many Obama staffers was Epstein buddies with? How many Israeli MPs? Put the whole of Lower Manhattan and half the Hamptons on the god damned sex offender registry. Dude was everywhere.

The man is absolutely radioactive. Never even mind the Republicans, there's zero chance Chuck Schumer wants anything else getting released. Epstein could bring down everyone in DC over 70.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Epstein could bring down everyone in DC over 70.

Stop I can only get so erect.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tyr0sine@mander.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago

Hence the Viagra.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

there’s zero chance Chuck Schumer wants anything else getting released

His voting says otherwise. What utter bullshit. You can literally say anything about him and then just demand people accept as true. Sound familiar?

My god, how many Obama staffers was Epstein buddies with?

Why the fuck would Republicans want to hold that back?

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[–] ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Ken Klippenstein agrees, but for a different reason. He's examined the bill's language and thinks transparency was doomed from the start:

“National Security” Blocks Epstein Files Release

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought the same but amazingly the Senate passed it easily. Trump says he'll sign it. We'll see.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He will. The wording of the language is that they release anything unclassified... So then Bondi classifies everything.

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I highly recommend Heather Cox Richardson’s near-daily coverage of current politics, and The Files.

From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.

Here’s my take: I find it pretty incredible that people don’t seem to understand the depths of Trumps depravity when he extorted our allies, sicked a hillbilly mob on the capital, used The Office of the President to hawk merch, and openly mocked American democracy, but grooming underage girls is where we all collectively draw the line. The mountains of evidence of his extreme criminality, his appointment of white and Christian nationalists, and his alliances with America’s sworn enemies melting down our government? Water off a duck’s back apparently.

I’m all for whatever it takes to dismantle the Trump regime, but I seriously doubt undoctored evidence ever sees the light of day. And if it does, he will be dead long before he ever sees justice for it. But, if it FINALLY sours voters enough to not vote for him in the next election, I’ll take it.

[–] CaptainBlinky@lemmy.myserv.one 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.

Man, that's a whole lot of words for "they're going to heavily edit the files to only show Democratic party member names and use them as a political weapon."

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

That's because it says more than just that.

[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

While I don’t doubt that, one of the things that Richardson’s coverage does is ground my heavy pessimism: Despite Trump’s corruption, his fascist network still must operate within the bounds of the American government and voting public’s opinion, just like the early Nazi party and other elected fascist movements.

The trove of evidence is hopefully still protected by standards of federal record keeping that can reveal tampering and based on what has already been released, the regime’s ability to control that evidence seems lacking. They will no doubt play up the parts that look bad for the opposition, but if there’s a big photo of Donald J. Trump blowing Bill Fucking Clinton with the travel and financial records to put them in the same place for a weekend, how are they gonna redact that?

And from all accounts, it’s sounding like whatever is in there is Chernobyl level heat.

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[–] breezeblock@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But only after they’ve been scrubbed of any mention of “allies”.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The latest batch of released files has included some of the laziest and most haphazard redactions I've seen since Bush was on his way out in '08. These Congresscritters aren't wasting staff time on cleaning up their info-dumps. It's all just going out the door every Friday.

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[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

After all this time, how do we knew what is authentic or complete?

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

It will be pretty obvious. If Trump is implicated, it's authentic.

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[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago
[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 17 points 1 day ago

Why do they HATE Trump? Even though Trump is NOT in the Epstein Files and Didnt KNOW the guy and Releasing them would PROVE that Trump Doesn't have Sex with Children?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Other news we’re following:

  • Trump dismisses 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi: The U.S. president gave a warm welcome to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salmanof Saudi Arabia, his first visit since the Washington Post reporter was killed by Saudi agents. When the crown prince was asked about Khashoggi, Trump interjected, saying, “Things happen.”

Jesus fucking Chr- *deep breath*

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

My guess is that they decided that since it wasn't going away they might as well get it fully into the news cycle now and the year until midterms will be enough time for it to fade away or be thoroughly MAGAtized so that it won't be a voting issue.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Narrator: And yet in spite of it all, those file never were released so the far right pedo class could be protected

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The latest traunch of emails has already clipped the wings of Larry Summers, Michael Wolff, Peggy Siegal, and Kathryn Ruemmler. I don't think its a coincidence that Prince Andrew was getting the heave-ho weeks in advance.

The Epstein Files are leaking like a sieve. By the time we get a full accounting, I'm curious to know what'll even be left to reveal.

[–] MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The House AND the Senate passed it already? Damn wasn't expecting that.

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