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[–] Aneb@lemmy.world 9 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

Legitimately every Republican I met is defending themselves, from taking money from the Government, while every leftest is fighting for everyone else to take money from gov programs. Why are retardpublicans so worried about poor people taking from the rich while also stealing the same benefits from working Americans who need it. "Riches for me but no one else" is literally their tagline

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 30 minutes ago

They’ll say “if they’re clever enough to not pay taxes then that’s fine by me!” as billionaires pay less than 1% real tax because they get to write the laws and then they’ll claim that a city bike lane has stolen their tax money.

They’re stupid as hell. Like, profundly fucking stupid. Conservatives are so pathetic and I’m embarrassed to be considered part of the same species as them.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 16 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

SNAP shouldn't be necessary for anyone who works. The fact that in America someone can have a job and yet still needs SNAP to survive is absolutely disgusting and disrespectful. Pay people a living wage jfc.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I disagree. Pay people UBI so any job automatically becomes a living wage.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 4 points 43 minutes ago

You're both right.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Right. They are stealing your livelihood from both ends, not living up to their side of the bargain and blame you for this problem. America s should all collectively not show up to work for a week and see if the tune changes, cause I'll bet it sure as shit would.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

The argument my friend always says is this cant happen or all small businesses will be shut down because only corps will be able to pay that high wage.

Counter point?

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago* (last edited 17 minutes ago)

Turns out, a large portion of people using SNAP are employees of these "corps" (source), quote:

... The story repeats in all nine states. Walmart and McDonald’s were the corporations with the most employees using SNAP.

We are basically subsidizing their employees' wages with our tax money. And at the same time, all those money goes to these companies' bottom line. (where do you think their employees spend their SNAP money?)

This is a fucking scam, and must be stopped. These corporations must pay their employees a living wage, otherwise they must not be allowed to operate.

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As it turns out, most small businesses pay a higher wage than the big corps. Average wages end up going down when a town gets Walmarted because Walmart pays less than the small businesses it drives out.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Im not sure thats right. Mc dick pays 15 dollars an hour here and a mom n pop shop downtown either wont hire you or pays 9 dollars.

[–] hodgepodgin@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

has chowder ever changed his mind during one of these or does he just troll the entire time

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 40 minutes ago

Seems a safe bet it's the latter.

Feigns being reasonable and rational, when really he's already decided what the truth is, stubbornly sticking to his naive realism. All just a ploy. Seems he thrives on it. Narcissistic troll indeed. By his actions.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 44 minutes ago

Average!?

I thought the average was the Democrat party.

... Ohhhh. Right. by USA standards. I see.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Let's make a deal. We cancel SNAP and implement a Negative Income Tax as conservative economist Milton Friedman recommended. That brings everyone up to the poverty line, and everyone on SNAP today won't need it anymore.

Benefits for you:

  • close a bunch of SNAP jobs
  • retail stores don't need to remember what's snap approved and what's not

Benefits for everyone else:

  • no more poverty
  • no application process for benefits, just file a fax return
  • cash instead of food-specific benefits, so people with food can use the cash for something else they need (clothes, utilities, etc)
[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 37 minutes ago

Yeah, poverty's expensive for everybody.

Much as I'm loathed to ever agree with an economist (conservative or otherwise), the general thrust there's sound.

Let the currency (and energy) flow. For the good of all, the prosperity of all. Even the rich are better off.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

He should give a pop up lecture at Utah State.

Why? They're a bunch of farmers out there, and it's like a half hour from the freeway and another hour or two to an airport.

Surely somewhere like Utah Valley University wouldn make more sense. 😜

[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Also this piece of shit doesnt have a mind worth changing. Just ignore him and use the calvin version of the meme, or better yet dont use that format anymore.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 0 points 36 minutes ago

Imagine if someone genuinely did manage to change his stubborn mind though...

*Dreamer*

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 58 points 5 hours ago

You can imagine how that went.

They're always so proud of upsetting other people, like it's a major win in the struggle for political dominance.

"I shat in the mall. You can imagine how that went."

[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 34 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Shit like that doesn't need to be debated.

Even in Ancient Rome they had a grain dole that... paid for itself! With interest! Because the poor who would otherwise struggle to buy wheat or barley got it, and could buy other stuff, even luxury items. The result is that more and more trade flowed directly to Rome and people made a bundle doing it.

And also less hungry people means less desperate people and it means more stability. Something that basically everyone wants.

But yes, these same right-wing grifters even attacked the grain dole in Ancient Rome as if it lead to the fall of the Roman Empire.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 33 minutes ago

Pretty simple when it's spelled out like that.

But then... It's troubling, that even this simple's still out of reach for some short sighted greedy stupid smugnorant hypocritical parasitic narcissistic trolls.

[–] solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

But giving away grain to peasants is why the entire empire fell to ruin! Letting people starve is the most humane way of reducing hunger in the long run, it just takes strong leadership to do what most be done. Really, it'll be faster, easier, and cheaper (which is by definition better for everyone) if we help accelerate things. Which will be the next bit of societal tough love that Crowder will be taking the high road on.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 32 minutes ago

Poe's Law's ringing loud there for me.

[–] saltnotsugar@lemmy.world 127 points 8 hours ago (12 children)

It’s hard for me to understand how someone can be such a piece of shit. Like yeah, let’s let children starve for no reason at all.

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

It's the Christian™ thing to do.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 27 minutes ago

Nice use of TM there.

The corporate orwellian spin there, yup. What would Jesus Christ do? He wants you to be prosperous, so, starve those children.

[–] Manjushri@piefed.social 70 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

No reason at all?! Are you kidding? They're doing it for profit. It's all for the bottom line! If a few kids starve, who cares? Most of them are brown anyway.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

I think it's more than that, they are heavily invested in a rather nasty version of the "just world hypothesis": if bad stuff happens to these people, like being poor and hungry, it's because they are bad and deserve it.

It's the same logic at play for blaming victims or rape and sexual violence.

Because the alternative, that the world isn't fair and horrible stuff happens to good people and good things also happen to horrible people, is too unpleasant and exhausting to contemplate and requires complex thought.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 23 minutes ago

Oh yup, they love that circular reasoning bias, eh? The cart is supposed to go before the horse. They are rich because god wants them to be. The poor are poor because god is judging them. Pay no attention to the suffering, or you're going against god!

Oh to start teaching philosophy and epistemology to children. Then maybe fewer would grow up with such harmful toxic dogmatic ideologies riddled with this circular reasoning fallacy.

[–] poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 hours ago

Specifically, breaking the just world illusion is unpleasant and exhausting because it removes the only reassurance they have that they are good people.

If they prosper in a just world then they are good. If you convince them the world is unjust then they have to grapple with being an awful person who has done and said awful things.

It's virtually impossible to convince someone of that

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 11 points 4 hours ago

The funniest part is the stores and their suppliers are pushing for SNAP benefits in the interest of profits, so the profiteering is fighting itself.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One cannot debate with a POS like Steven.

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 29 minutes ago

You forgot to add "change my mind" under that, to feign seeming reasonable and open minded. ;)

[–] don@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 hours ago

Universe: I need a benchmark for the absolute very worst of the species called human

Conservatives: ARE YOU FUCKING BLIND HOLY SHIT WE’RE STANDING RIGHT FUCKING HERE

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 7 hours ago

And yet I was denied when I applied for PPP and I lost my business

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