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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 31 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

Wanna know something fun about Office?
The keyboard shortcuts are localized.

YES, REALLY.

If you press Ctrl+S when running in Portuguese, it doesn't save, it underlines the word instead (Because the word for it is "Sublinhar").

Whoever is responsible for this decision won't die, when their time comes they'll be swallowed alive by the earth and welcomed into the 10th circle of hell, created for them exclusively.

The 11th circle is reserved for he who decided to localize the Excel Formula Functions too.

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Many such wacky cases in Windows. Like where you install your software ("Program Files") is localized too.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 4 hours ago

I sure am glad I just use English on all my devices despite it not being my native language.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago

I thought my respect for Word had troughed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 31 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Microsoft has had a monopoly on office software since the 90s. They illegally leveraged this monopoly to try to destroy competition in other areas. Most infamously, they destroyed Netscape to try to kill competition in the early Internet space. That resulted in a trial for illegally abusing their monopoly which they lost. Then George W. Bush was elected president, and somehow Microsoft effectively got off with essentially no punishment. Admittedly though, part of that was that the judge in the case was so outraged at some of the stuff Microsoft pulled (submitting falsified evidence, having Bill Gates lie under oath repeatedly) that he talked about it in public when he shouldn't, which opened a door for Microsoft to try to weasel out of the loss.

The "evil" in Google's motto "Don't be evil" was widely viewed as being Microsoft. Google was an Internet company in an age where Microsoft was on trial for using their power to make everything about the Internet shitty so that they could control it. In the early days of Google, people weren't even allowed to use Microsoft software, including Windows, without a special dispensation from the higher-ups. Microsoft effectively avoided any kind of punishment for their abuse of their monopoly, but it distracted them and made them cautious, so they weren't able to crush Google before it could get going. Before anybody chimes in about how Google is evil, first read up in what Microsoft did. Google might be a bit shady, but where Google got its monopoly by spending hundreds of billions to make its search engine the default, Microsoft used tactics to destroy potential competitors and drive them out of business.

If the US (and the world) had effective enforcement of the anti-monopoly laws, Word would actually have to compete on its own merits. But, because it's a monopoly, Microsoft can just sit back and keep collecting rent.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 41 minutes ago

Microsoft hurt Netscape, but it was AOL that killed it. At the height of the dotcom bubble, Wall street handed AOL more money than they knew what to do with so AOL bought Netscape. Of course they didn't have any idea what to do with it (they still kept putting IE on the discs they mailed out to people even when they owned Netscape) and it eventually withered away and died.

The people that ran Netscape correctly predicted it would go this way, but it was a ridiculous amount of money AOL was offering. Luckily they made releasing the code as open source as part of the deal.

Capitalism? Or nice things? Your decision.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Microsoft did lots of shady shit to leverage their quasi monopoly on PC operating systems. However Microsoft Office was actually better than the competition in many aspects. The main competition for Microsoft Office was IBM's Smart Suite. Excel left industry leader Lotus 1-2-3 in the dust pretty quickly in the early 1990s. MS Word was also better than market leader WordPerfect. Then in the late 1990s Outlook became leading and is still unmatched by anything else. Softmaker Office is the only office suite that still exists from back then.

[–] tangonov@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

There is currently* nothing Microsoft Office does that I can't happily do in LibreOffice

[–] OsmerusMordax@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

MS Word is significantly worse than WordPerfect. Reveal codes FTW.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

WordPerfect was the leading word processing program under DOS. When Windows was released Microsoft screwed with them by not giving them full access to all the Windows APIs (something Microsoft was notorious for). Surprise, surprise, at the same time Microsoft was not giving WordPerfect the API info they needed, they were releasing their own competitive word processor in Word.

But, once WordPerfect got access to the APIs, they produced a word processor that was superior to Word. The only reason that Word took off is that Microsoft aggressively bundled it with everything.

As for Outlook, I've never met anybody who actually likes it. The only thing it has going for it is that it's available by default and it's the only thing compatible with emails from other Outlook users. There's a reason its nickname is "outhouse". Outlook did the same things that Microsoft did with HTML and HTTP: embrace, extend, extinguish. They took de-facto and de-jure email standards and modified them so that only other Outlook users could use the email properly. They made sure that if you tried to use anything other than Outlook with Microsoft Exchange, that it wouldn't quite work right.

With Microsoft it's always about taking their monopoly in one area and squeezing another area, driving their competitors away. It's what they're now doing with developer tools, like github and visual studio code.

lol "edit your expectations" got me :D

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world -4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

“Nothing about it works” sounds like someone who has never used it. It works fine.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

That’s the Stockholm Syndrome talking.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Oh I have, unfortunately.

[–] muse@piefed.blahaj.zone 17 points 7 hours ago

Want to automate your office document? Enjoy making your business dependent on a language

  • that will be a dead end for your developer career
  • where arrays can start at 0 or 1
  • where checking for an array involves ignoring an error and resuming
  • that is guaranteed to be broken a future patch
  • that has to be given permission to run in a security center
[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago

I have made so many thousands of dollars in consulting fees because people don't know about the "align object: over text" option. I would even show them, and they'd still call me back the next week offering money.

[–] madjo@feddit.nl 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's still a damned shame that they killed Microsoft Works.

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I actually miss Encarta. It was obviously killed by Google earth/maps but it was one of the only maps that allowed you to search for a river and it would highlight the entire thing from mouth to ocean , which google has never done. It was a nice feature that let you see just how big a given tributary system really was.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Is this a feature that could be implemented in one of the open source map projects?

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 45 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (14 children)

Everyone complaining here about not being able to have unique footers or moving images or ignoring spelling errors just doesn't know what they're doing. You're literally the bad workman blaming the tool. I can do all of those things in Word.

If you prefer another tool, fine. But please stop shitting on things just because you don't understand them.

And PDF was never meant to be edited. Its sole purpose is to give you a document file which comes out exactly the same on computer screens and printers everywhere. Compact, reliable, compatible. If you need to replace parts of a PDF document post publication, it should be prepared using the Forms tools that are readily available in all good PDF suites.

By the way: I paid 30 Euros for an Office 2019 lifetime license. If ever that should not receive further updates then I'm ready to fork over another 30.

[–] AXLplosion@lemmy.zip 36 points 10 hours ago (8 children)

I was working on my thesis a couple days ago using Word, and it permanently deleted a whole line of text when I pressed ctrl+Z to undo a mistake.

That happened with every line on the page until i copied everything to a different text editor and then copied it back to Word.

I respect your take but I will never respect Word.

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[–] Diddlydee@feddit.uk 122 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Whoever stole my MS office, I'll find you. You have my Word.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 59 points 12 hours ago (1 children)
[–] brightandshinyobject@lemmy.world 19 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

massgrave.dev that's all I'm gonna say.

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