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Tucker Carlson’s interview with the activist revealed the mainstream right is being flooded by extremism – and it’s now impossible to contain

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe you look like clowns because you are clowns...

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago

It's a Civil War between the Sad Clowns and the Happy Clowns.

I think we should turn the lions on the whole lot of them.

[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 15 points 3 days ago

WYDM "look like"?

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago

Gee...it's almost as though a doctrine that is built on divisiveness and hate will inevitably devolve into internecine squabbles because that's all the people involved with it know how to do.

Who'd a thunk it?

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago
[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 59 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

"We look like clowns. "

👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 10 points 3 days ago

Hey you can't just post pics of the Kirk shooting like that

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Let’s not trash clowns by comparing them to white nationalists. Clowns are fun and many don’t do genocides at all.

Edit: I was expecting someone to question that last part so I could mention Ronald McDonald and compare that to a genocide but no one took the bait.

[–] Alenalda@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The don't compare x to x "joke" is pretty old

[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Well joking is my defense mechanism and times are pretty rough lately.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 44 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

We're supposed to be hating on minorities and making them afraid to walk down the street, but we're fighting among ourselves instead.

-Fuentes, essentially

[–] TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

How does a Fuentes lead a white nationalist movement? Giving off big Clayton Bigsby vibes.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They are not smart people. And Fuentes knows it. He haaaates his followers. He despises how stupid they are. It's an amazing interplay if you actually watch his fetid show.

edit: I can't believe I feel the need to edit this, but we are in an unthinking timeline and I realized I left this comment out in space without qualifiers. I need to make things clear, just because Fuentes hates his nazi audience and just because he is attacking the GOP, DOES NOT MEAN HE'S NOW YOUR FRIEND. He is a giant piece of shit and his hair is weird. Let them all rot together.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

1: Plenty of white Hispanic people

2: Plenty of colorism and anti-black Hispanic sentiment among non-white Hispanics

3: He considers himself white

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Until he outlives his usefulness then a Whitey McPaleface will take over.

[–] runiq@feddit.org 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

"We look like clowns"

Good observation, you do! But probably not for the reason you think.

Edit: Also, what the fuck is 'the mainstream right?'

[–] yakko@feddit.uk 19 points 4 days ago

People who pay little attention but enjoy cruelty and see lots of political memes. Just guessing.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 days ago

The mainstream right is primarily center-leaning folks who believe in traditional Republican talking points and don't really examine the underlying racism. For example, they believe welfare moms are a problem. They consider spending money on the arts wasteful and regulations to be anti-business. They believe in aggressive America-first foreign policy.

Many of them just want to exist in a world where they can do what they want and most everyone is basically like them.

Overtly anti-queer conservatives are the evangelicals, the "moral majority", and are a significant but niche faction. And then obviously you have white supremacists who are even more niche. But the mainstream tolerates both because a world where they don't ever have to feel uncomfortable around people whose speech they can't understand or men kissing is fine with them. They don't hate minorities, but they just don't really care about them either. Mostly they think themselves good people and everyone should strive to be just like them.

That all being said, I think the growing rift between the left and the right is radicalizing some of the mainstream, due to vocal extremists driving the conversation and politicians trying to stay relevant in online discussions. To the point where it wouldn't surprise me if mainstream right isn't the minority.

And I say all this knowing the question is probably rhetorical.

the mainstream right: Racist bigots but they like Israel and white Jews.

People who bought the line of bullshit about Republicans being financially responsible at some point in the 80s, decided that was enough engagement for one lifetime, and proceeded to turn their brains off and have exercised precisely 0 critical thinking about anything even remotely political ever since.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It used to exist. They were the people who were concerned with keeping up an appearance of respectability and avoiding extreme rhetoric in public. All of that went out of the window with Trump, of course.

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fiscal conservatives who don't like abortion, but aren't on the fascist train.

The Mitt Romneys of the world.

Not the Nick's.

[–] eltrain123@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Any real fiscal conservatives gave up on republicans a long time ago…

[–] runiq@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Would the real fiscal conservatives please stand up, please stand up, please stand up

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The shitstain neo-Nazi lives in a Blue State! WTF! He should shove off to fucking Indiana or Mississippi,

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 2 days ago

Wouldn't surprise me in the least of he were an Israeli operative, tbh.

[–] resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

No.

Not “like.”

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago
[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Nothings changed.

[–] 6stringringer@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago

This comment thread delivers!

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Leopards love the taste of face.

[–] tornavish@lemmy.cafe 4 points 4 days ago

Look in a mirror buddy

[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago
[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, he looks more like a leprechaun, but clowns works too.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 days ago