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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 38 points 6 days ago
[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'd like to share a revelation during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you're not actually mammals.

Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.

You are a plague, and we... are the cure.

(This scene not brought to you by an LLM... yet.)

[–] sixpaque@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

I have to admit that part of the film always sticks with me.

[–] USSMojave@startrek.website 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We need to fundamentally change our values to prioritize life over money. Money, the abstraction of value for exchanging resources, has brainwashed us into collecting and spending it. We've allowed it to get between us and access to literally everything tiny thing we need to survive, and we even use it as a social score that places us in castes. Money truly is the root of all evil. Think about it, every decision we make is based on money, how much it costs, how fortunate you are to have the money in the first place. Money money money. Life over money, please

We need to fundamentally change our values to prioritize life over money.

while i agree with the sentiment, i want to point something out.

when you say it like this, somebody else will read it and say "aha, so instead of maximizing money, we have to maximize life, which implies forcing women to have babies. pro-birther confirmed." and that's probably not what you intended.

so i guess one could maybe modify your statement a bit to make it make more sense in some other people's eye.

[–] decipher_jeanne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's a chicken or the egg situation isn't it?

You need money to feed someone, to get a roof, for healthcare. Wouldn't anyone growing up their entire life in this system be reasonably expected to be obsessed with money? Thus perpetuating the system and the issue.

[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Human labor transforms the physical materials of nature into useful goods. Humans can decide how to collectively organize their labor.

We don't actually need money to feed anyone (look at indigenous tribes for example). We have collectively decided to put paywalls on everything we produce. Which is a shame, because we produce more than enough for everyone.

[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 13 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Infinite growth is not sustainable and will lead to ruin fast.

Planned obsolesence lead to huge waste of finite resources.

Shitty wealth distribution, Billionares are not compatible with a functioning society.

Capitalism needs to come along with heavy regulation and anti-corruption messures.

[–] cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Under capitalism, capital will always accumulate into the hands of the shareholders. Those with the capital will always find a way to influence politicians into deregulating, no matter how many anti-corruption measures you put in place. We've seen this happen over and over for as long as capitalism has existed.

We need a fundamental change in the system that prevents capital from accumulating. That change would be socialism, where the workers collectively own the means of production, rather than it being owned privately by the shareholders.

There are other ’non-nightmare–extinction-shit-show' options than just the one, but its certainly better than our chosen path, that you¹ are choosing every moment you dont act, of nightmare extinction shit show.

¹the reader, that's you.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That change would be socialism, where the ~~workers~~ workers' self-appointed representatives own the means of production, rather than it being owned privately by the shareholders.

We've been down this road. We know where it ends.

[–] cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If you would stop bending my words for a moment, you would realize that I'm advocating for direct ownership by the workers, not some phony representative democracy. Any system with hierarchies of decision-making power, even supposedly self-appointed ones, will always corrupt.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world -1 points 5 days ago

And how would the workers exercise that "direct" ownership? Workers aren't a hive mind. There will always be hierarchies.

They are not compatible with any society, or continued existence of life.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Infinite growth is not sustainable and will lead to ruin fast.

infinite growth is not sustainable in a finite space, but if you develop spaceflight, you have literally infinite space available, so the argument falls flat.

i just wanted to add that addition. it's actually why spaceflight is pushed forward in america, because it enables growth without destroying the planet at the same time.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

While the universe may be close to infinite, the number of habitable (or reasonably terraformable) planets we can get to is a far smaller number.

A number statistically similar to zero. (assuming travel times counted in less than a human livespan)

[–] Sunshine@piefed.ca 6 points 6 days ago

Also when people act like climate action “opposes” affordability 🤦‍♀️

[–] jaselle@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

After the collision, both are stopped.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Jesus Christ. This is the most accurate meme of all time.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 6 days ago

JFC this hits from in the void that used to be my heart.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

a cancer of a cancer cell to be exact.

[–] glibg@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 days ago

Perfectly stated.