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Christmas creep was happening 100 years ago, thanks capitalism.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 109 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The entire pyramid collapses if consumers don't consume.

[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 73 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ironically they are making it much more difficult to consume by making wages stagnant, while increasing inflation. I can’t wait for it to backfire on them.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Could they be out of touch with reality?

[–] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 23 points 3 days ago

No, it's reality that is out of touch with them!

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 15 points 3 days ago

Indentured servants are more exploitable than consumers; you don't have to solicit for their money with goods.

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

Sounds like a phenomenal system to build a global economy on /s

[–] tym@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Doing my part with the easiest thing we could do if we actually cared about the suffering in the world.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 74 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

They start stocking the shelves with Christmas crap a week before Halloween now

You have to buy and prepare your Halloween gear by the first week of October and buy all your candy two weeks before Halloween because there will be little to no Halloween stuff by Halloween ... and anything you can buy the week before Halloween will either be no good or way overpriced and in that week before Halloween, you have to search for the Halloween stuff among all the Christmas stuff they started displaying.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They start early September in Canada… so fed up….

[–] Botzo@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

There were decorations for sale at Costco in California in late August. Decorative gourd season decorations hadn't even shown up yet.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

I want to buy Halloween decorations during the week before Halloween, and they were already closing up

aight no money for you I guess

[–] pageflight@piefed.social 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am annoyed by Christmas before Thanksgiving, but the change doesn't seem that egregious, just avoiding the case where it could be a week later than usual:

in 1863, during the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln established the last Thursday of November as the official date for Thanksgiving to be celebrated each year. Following this tradition, every president thereafter declared a general day of Thanksgiving to be observed on the last Thursday in November. However, in 1939, during the Great Depression, November had five Thursdays, and the last one fell on November 30, which left little time for the Christmas shopping season. To address this concern, in August 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt decided to break from tradition and issued an executive order declaring that Thanksgiving would be celebrated on November 23 instead of November 30.

Also it didn't work:

A 1941 Commerce Department survey found no significant expansion of retail sales due to the change.

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Why is it so late in the US anyways? Other countries have this right after the harvest season.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

FDR was unarguably the most socialist president the US has ever had

[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FDR was the president who did the most to increase social welfare, but he was still a capitalist.

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 16 points 3 days ago

This is the US you're talking about, they consider it nice if their elected officials apply lube before raping them.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

What about Teddy Roosenvelt?

[–] orbital 20 points 2 days ago

At that time, it was generally frowned upon for retailers to display Christmas decorations or hold Christmas sales prior to Thanksgiving—a trend later referred to as "Christmas creep."

At least we don't have that problem anymore! /s

[–] drsilverworm@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago

All holidays are shaped by consumerism. Mother's day, valentines day, st Patrick's day, it's all about selling more shit.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanksgiving has always been in October

[–] vatlark@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Canadian thanksgiving is best thanksgiving

[–] Widdershins@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

I wanted to burn a target down when I went there at noon on Halloween and the Halloween section was already stripped bare to make room for xmas shit. I made my purchase last minute elsewhere so there would be more candy on Halloween to give out. There's no bigger shame than in having to turn the porch lights off early because half the candy got eaten before Halloween.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

We kept Thanksgiving in early October in Canada and they still start advertising for Christmas as soon as Halloween is done.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Finally figured out why retailers keep moving up the date on Christmas stuff. Consumers are only going to spend $X on decorations and the like. If you're late getting those on the shelf, that money has already been given to your competitor.

So, it's not greed, it's, "Want the sale or not?"

[–] Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Wait. Shopping stops?