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This year, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz pledged to build Europe’s strongest army – a tall order for a country whose military has undergone years of neglect.

The coalition government is hoping a new bill agreed upon last week will help make this a reality, bolstering Germany’s forces in the face of the perceived threat from Russia and a significant shift in US foreign policy.

The sweeping new reforms will see Germany attempt to boost its numbers to 260,000 soldiers, up from around 180,000 currently, in addition to an extra 200,000 reservists, by 2035.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Germany knows a continental army is going to happen and don't want the French to be running the show all on their own.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

the French

cheese eatin' surrender monkeys.

[–] BearGun@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 day ago
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 50 points 2 days ago
[–] tuff_wizard@aussie.zone 53 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Fuck it, why not. What are the chances they try it three times in a row?

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The Great Ice Cream would be post WWIII where Germany would be forced to buy everyone ice cream.

[–] Insekticus@aussie.zone 19 points 2 days ago

I dunno, third time's the charm after all...

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Neglect? They voluntarily kept it low-profile

Ah yes, conscripts. They make the best armies.

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 13 points 3 days ago

France: “u wot mate?”

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I did Nazi that coming

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 8 points 2 days ago

Tall order for a country whose birth rates are cratering

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Instead of diplomatically and economically eliminating our threats let's build up a big military so we can kill lots of people. Fascism is fun!

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Like Trump is diplomatically resolving the Ukraine's invasion by giving everything to Russia that they want and forgiving all their war crimes and crimes against humanity?

So when Russia invades other post soviet countries in Europe, we should just diplomatically give them up to Russia too?

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes another cold war. I bet the military industry just loves you.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Naw, he likes warmongers like you.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

He's scared shitless of powerful countries, the only way to deter that warmonger is to have a more powerful military than him.

The only other option is to let Putin continue invading post-soviet countries and annex them, just like he did with Crimea and now continues with other Ukrainian regions.

Do you think that's a good idea? Or do you really believe he will stop after this latest invasion? Do you not see what he's doing is not much different than how WW2 started? Before Europe realised what was happening, it was too late, it was already mostly occupied by Nazis.

The only thing that DICKtator responds to and the only thing that will deter him from further invasions is POWER and telling him to FUCK OFF or he will be bombed into oblivion.

I'm 99% sure you are either a Russian bot or a victim of Russian propaganda. Keep licking those Putin boots, you're almost done big boy.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The best time to take out Putin is right now you pussy. You just want to build up another cold war so your military complex buddies can get rich killing off civilians.

I am 99% sure you are a bootlicker capitalist who thinks war is going to solve our problems.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I bet you never heard of deterrents and mutually assured destruction.

Or you heard about them, and you think you know what they mean and how they work conceptually, but in reality you have no clue.

So please, I've asked you a couple times now. What is the alternative to stop Putin from invading Europe? Or do you believe he will stop this time, once he achieves what he wants in Ukraine? Why do you keep deflecting those key questions? Bot much?

Edit:

The best time to take out Putin is right now

So start WW3 to defeat Putin?

"War bad. Let's start WW3 to stop all wars" - You 👆.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I bet your not very bright if you think mutually assured destruction is a good thing

I am not fan of how this whole thing is being handled. Without the US backing up Europe Russia can't be brought to their knees diplomatically. However economically Europe could deal the death blow to Russia. But it won't.

I am not a fan of escalation, but if Europe actually stepped in to save Ukraine it would change everything. But it won't.

What we will do is continue to throw innocents into the meat grinder. Fuck the warmongers that are allowing this on all sides.

[–] FridaySteve@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I bet your not very bright

*you're

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago
[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You keep making all these baseless claims Mr very bright and yet you STILL haven't answered how to stop Putin?

How exactly could Europe bring Russia to its knees? It tried and it failed. Europe is made up of many different countries with different relationships to Russia, Mr very bright.

No single European country can bring down Russia and the European Union is just an economic union where a lot of Russia sympathetic members keep voting against Russian sanctions. So how exactly can Europe bring down Russia, Mr very bright?

Please enlighten me.

Sincerely,
Mr not very bright

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You desperately want someone to solve all your problems don't you. You sure you don't want to go live in Russia so daddy Putin can make all your decisions for you?

Let's all sell some more bombs to Ukraine while we continue sending money to Russia seems to be the European stance. The US is just straight fascists backing Russia while selling arms to the Ukraine. The most powerful military in the world in check.

So the solution is to build up armies again so we can go to war err I mean create mutually assured destruction? That is the best you can do. Pathetic.

The quickest way to end this is just to give Ukraine some nukes no? I thought mutually assured destruction is the way to go!

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So what is the other way? I gave you numerous chances to convince me, but all you have is hot air about how "war is bad". Of course it is, it's fucking horrible, you really don't need to convince me of that. I know very well all the atrocities and war crimes Putin is committing in Ukraine. Do you??

However, I see no other options to deal with bullies other than having a bigger gun than them. Bullies don't respond to nice words (diplomacy).

Trump tried diplomacy, it failed horribly. Watch some documentaries maybe about Putin - you will learn that he doesn't respond to diplomacy, he only responds to power or bootlicking.

So according to you it's better to get occupied by Russia than to fight them back? But in order to fight them back, Europe needs more guns, let alone try to deter them from escalating. It sure would be nice to have the option to defend ourselves if the diplomacy fails. Just like it failed with Ukraine.

You're living in some dreamland, if you think diplomacy can work with Putin. Just look at history. It would be incredibly stupid to repeat it and let Russia bully the Europe again.

So please please please, for the sake of peace, enlighten me how do we stop Russia peacefully without letting it invade other counties? Or is your solution to just let them invade whoever they want, and commit all the war crimes they want, killing and raping civilians? How the fuck do you stop such evil peacefully?

Oh I know how, the same way that Palestine successfully defended against Israel!

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So no nukes for Ukraine!? I guess there is just no pleasing you. We can't fix it diplomatically, we can't fix it economically.

I guess the default solution is to let a bunch of innocents die and slowly bleed the criminal state that is Russia.

Trump tried diplomacy!? You must really have your head far up where the sun don't shine to believe that.

I said you were a warmonger, you haven't convinced me you are not. Until you do your opinion as a chickenshit saber rattler does not matter to me.

[–] falseWhite@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yet again, you're blowing a lot of hot air without providing ANY solutions, or arguments.

For the hundredth time, how do you stop an atrocious, evil war criminal like Putin peacefully?

Please, I'm begging for the answer here. How many more times do I have to ask it?

So no nukes for Ukraine!? I guess there is just no pleasing you

I've never said Ukraine or anyone needs nukes. Are you a retard? Can you read? That would explain why you keep ignoring all the main points and questions.

I guess the default solution is to let a bunch of innocents die and slowly bleed the criminal state that is Russia.

I would gladly fight and die protecting my country from Russian occupation, exactly what Ukrainians are doing. And they would be winning hard if they had more advanced military (what EU is trying to do and you are arguing against).

You are literally parroting main points of Russian propaganda, how arming up is bad and will lead to further conflicts. No, it will prevent further conflicts, by deterring dictators from invasion.

Are you sure you are not a Russian bot or have been affected by Russian propaganda and disinformation?

And many many more people WILL die protecting their countries, unless they have a strong enough military to deter Russia from invading them in the first place.

That's the fucked up reality we live in, thanks to dictators and billionaires running the world. If history has taught us anything, the only way to stop evil is to fight it.

Give me an example from any time in history where evil dictators were dealt with diplomaticcally. I'll wait.

Trump tried diplomacy!? You must really have your head far up where the sun don't shine to believe that.

Yes he fucking did. What do you think that Alaska visit to discuss the peace deal was for? I never said he was good at it. But if the "most powerful" man in the world with the most powerful military backing him, cannot achieve a single shred of diplomacy, what chances do the small and weak European countries have?

You're arguing like my 5 year old nephew:

  • "nooo you are wrong and I am right".
  • "okay, why am I wrong and why are you right"
  • "because you are wrong and I am right!"

Do not bother replying if you're just gonna cry again "wAr Is BaD", without answering any of my questions or providing any arguments as to what the alternative is.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I said the easiest way to end the war is to give Ukraine nukes. Your reading comprehension is dismal.

You already decided there are no answers. You gave up with your only solution as a conventional arms race. You solution is stupid and will lead to more death. That is because you are a warmonger.

If you think Trump seriously tried diplomacy your even dumber than I thought. The world must be really confusing when you believe such nonsense.

The US could end this war in a heartbeat, why won't it. Why does Europe keep buying oil from Russia if they are so bad. You see, you don't have these answers because you are apparently incapable of critical thought.

Go rattle your saber somewhere else chicken hawk.

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