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[–] Veltoss@lemmy.world 85 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Gotta love how they told people to go south then bombed them there, as well as hospitals. And they can just say every target, no matter how many civilians die, was a "Hamas target" and it's "Hamas' responsibility to protect civilians" while they indiscriminately bomb these civilians.

Crazy that more people aren't speaking up against this.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 years ago

They told people to evacuate and then bombed the evacuation routes.

Israeli spokespersons keep saying they're fighting Nazis, but I only see Nazis on their side of this.

[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 30 points 2 years ago

Once Palestinians starteing evacuating North Gaza, Israel bombed the humanitarian corridor that they'd declared as safe.

Russia did the same to Ukrainians last year and EU & NATO & UN supported Ukraine. Now they support Israel.

[–] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

For many it's the sunk cost fallacy.

They've rhetorically, unreservedly supported Israel for half a century, and they will not be reexamining those intransigent beliefs today, thank you very much.

"The Doctor: How much blood will spill until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning -- sit down and talk! Listen to me, listen. I just -- I just want you to think. Do you know what thinking is? It's just a fancy word for changing your mind.

Bonnie: I will not change my mind.

The Doctor: Then you will die stupid."

-Steven Moffat, excerpt from Doctor Who

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[–] LollerCorleone@kbin.social 77 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (18 children)

If it was any other West Asian country doing this, the entire West would be denouncing them and taking action. But because its Israel doing it, this is fine.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because there are consequences of you go against the grain. It's all about money...always. Palestinians have little to no money and influence.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (12 children)

It's sad that this type of comment can be and is often spun as "antisemitism"

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

Agreed. It's also frustrating that the labeling of anything anti-Zionist as anti-Semitism just gives actual anti-Semites the opportunity to claim their actual anti-Semitism is anything but.

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[–] xuxebiko@kbin.social 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

the toxic sludge of racism + Islamophobia = support and empowerment for Israel to ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (4 children)

The other, possibly larger, part of it is the fear of being labeled antisemitic. Antisemitism is a huge problem all over the world but Jews aren't to blame for what's going on - Zionist are.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yep. And yet Israel is giving the rest of the world more excuses for antisemitism. Who is even winning this "war," other than Bibi and his toadies?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No one. Jews everywhere will take a reputation hit from the public at large because Bibi pretends to speak for them.

I grew up in a Jewish neighborhood. I worked at a Jewish family business. I have lots of Jewish friends. And I've yet to meet a Jew who likes the guy...even the ones who support an Israeli state.

[–] alquicksilver@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed. I'm Jewish and have never supported Israel, but my parents do and even they hate him.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I think I support the idea of Israel because they've historically been a target of genocide but I recognize that it's not my land being given away to make it. It's the perpetual expansion if Israel that bothers me.

Zionists originally wanted a homeland and they got it. Now, Zionists want an empire. I'm pretty sure Palestine won't exist after this conflict. You give a mouse a cookie...

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[–] stmcld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

US President Joe Biden will once again emphasise Israel's “right and duty” to defend itself.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

More like "ight n dty tdfnfd ishlf", the old fuck sounds like he's trying to eat his own teeth.

The most powerful country in human history, and out of its 330 million people the best they could find to lead them was this guy who's literally dying in front of our eyes.

Fuck me.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

this guy who's literally dying in front of our eyes

sicko-wistful

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[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll say the hospital was full of human shields idf-cool

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[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Some nerd reported the post suggesting that maybe it was a Palestinian air strike. LMAO

[–] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Israel is claiming that some rockets launched by Hamas towards Israel went off course and hit the hospital.

I remember Russia staging a "Ukrainian missle attack", but they were so bad at it that the damage was on the side of buildings facing away from Ukraine. Should be pretty easy to check that here too...

[–] jonne 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The rockets Hamas fires can barely punch a hole in a wall, and this explosion basically leveled the whole hospital. It's just a ridiculous claim.

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[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago

From the river to the sea
Palestine will be free

Hush now, hush now
Don't you cry
Palestine will never die

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemm.ee 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hasan called this yesterday. Of course he was right

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 24 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Death to Israel. Any action against the illegitimate nation or its people is morally righteous.

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[–] StalinwasaGryffindor@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Absolutely monstrous. Death to Israel, the us and every country continuing to support this genocidal regime

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago
[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 years ago

The hospitals are packed with children. Holy shit.

[–] macabrett@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 years ago

My heart is breaking.

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

I don't understand a lot about this conflict but surely there can be no justification for this. Those poor people

[–] Flaps@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Genocide Joe saying it wasn't the zionist entity, but 'someone else'.probably corn pop, he's a bad dude, Jack biden-point

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