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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 42 points 1 day ago

IDF rules:

OK things to do:

  • Kill children,
  • Rape women,
  • Kill prisoners,
  • Destroy peoples property,
  • Use iPhone.

Not OK things to do:

  • Use Android OS
[–] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

If ever anyone still doesn't get how Western countries still support Israel despite the populations of those countries widely hating Israel, this shit is why.

They have blackmail on all our politicians, but moreover they can sell their domestic surveillance spy tools (such as malware) to bad actors (such as the US gov) to spy on their own citizens too.

Israel is the #1 perpetrator and exporter of fascism and police states.

[–] NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

The reason for this is because Pegasus is better used on iPhones than Androids and you can flash GrapheneOS on them while iPhones are locked down.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Androids are obviously Hamas

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[–] handsoffmydata@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought Apple doesn’t let the bad guys … oh wait, that’s just in Movies and TV shows.

[–] CatAssTrophy@safest.space 19 points 1 day ago

It's also just not true, the villain/killer/etc has iPhones in many shows and movies already, including multiple AppleTV shows.

[–] 5paceThunder@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Guess Blackberry security was right all along

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I’m guessing it’s just for the security?

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[–] Mrkawfee@feddit.uk 27 points 2 days ago

Guess we now know what the "i" stands for.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 66 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I said it before and I’ll say it again, among all tech companies, Apple is the closest to the nazi mindset.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (46 children)

Google has decided you cannot turn off Gemini in their newer versions of Android. You cannot install other roms that do either, Google is killing those too. But yea, Apple is the bad guy. Ignore the Google rug pull.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Wasn't it also just reported a few weeks ago that Samsung installs Israeli spyware on android devices sold in MENA?

https://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-appcloud-spyware-controversy-3616325/

[–] biggeoff@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Both are the bad guys, not either.

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[–] UnspecificGravity 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

What roms does Apple let you install on iPhones?

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apple never opened that door. Google did, but they never intended to keep it open. it was there to catch up with apple. they never intended to do any good here. it was there to speed up development and win people over, then after they are already there, google can close the door and screw them all. That's what's happening now. It was a bait and switch.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Yep. The attract phase is completed for Android, now on to the extract phase.

[–] Khrux@ttrpg.network 29 points 2 days ago

As much as I don't disagree, I think the "Apple is closest to Nazism" comment touches on something different. Other massive American companies have awful practices but they don't care particularly how their way of making money looks. Apple wields a specific aesthetic power that generally dictates a hegemonic uniformity, that strays the line of being to their detriment at times. I don't think any other big tech company would care in the same way if not for their desire to copy Apple.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Apple never even tried to allow it, so yeah, Apple IS the bad guy. Google is becomeing it, Apple is the mayor of bad guy town.

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[–] anzo@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

This can mean anything, it's possible they wanted just 1 platform so that their expertise is focused. And android being a little more open may have been seen (biased) as a disadvantage (i.e. enemies are more prone to find a vulnerability). We can argue with it. It's like the counterpart of people thinking that open source is per default more safe because of being open source... It's a correlation that can't prove anything..

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 44 points 2 days ago (10 children)

frankly this is because israel knows exactly how much spyware they've gotten their partner, Google, to put into android. the iphone is also chock full of spyware, and they do want to spy on their military force to make sure it's as ideologically and racially pure as they need it to be to continue their genocide. further consider that budget iphones don't exist and you realize that their systemic impoverishing of the indigenous Palestinian people means that all of the targets of their genocide are much more likely to be android users than iphone users. given this, israel is in real time creating a new signifier of jewish-israeli identity. soon having an android phone as civilian will be evidence of HAMAS.

and again.

i want to remind everyone that google is a major partner to israel. this is not a case of iphones bad guys, android phones good guys. this is a case of both being components in a system of torture. i can't tell you yet to divest yourself of both to switch to linux phones like postmarketos because even i can't do that without buying a new device, but please watch that space. and until you can, if you're using a google pixel please consider installing grapheneos, and if you're not please consider using a de-googled lineage based rom. israel greatly values the intel they get from their partner google.

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[–] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website 133 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The Israeli military has decided to ban Android phones for senior officers

“Under the expected order, commanders from the rank of lieutenant colonel and above will be permitted to use only iPhones for official communications. The step is aimed at reducing the risk of intrusions on senior officers’ handsets, according to the report.”

So it seems that Israel (one of the leading country in hackers spies for hire) thinks that there’s a lot « Hezbollah honey pot » that target android device

[–] SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 131 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Israeli company Cellebrite sells a device to extract data from locked phones, both Android and iPhones afaik. So indeed I'm guessing their government knows some stuff about the security of both platforms.

Fun fact: comments mentioning Cellebrite get immediately shadow-hidden on Reddit, or at least in some of the main subs.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

In 2021, Moxie Marlinspike, creator of the encrypted messaging app Signal, pointed to several vulnerabilities in Cellebrite's UFED and Physical Analyzer software that allowed for arbitrary code execution on Windows computers running the software. One exploit he detailed involved the UFED scanning a specially formatted file, which could then be used to execute arbitrary code on the computer running the UFED. Marlinspike wrote that the code could then "[modify] not just the Cellebrite report being created in that scan, but also "all previous and future generated Cellebrite reports" from all previously scanned devices and all future scanned devices in any arbitrary way."[27] Marlinspike also found that Cellebrite software was bundled with out-of-date FFmpeg DLL files from 2012, which lacked over 100 subsequent security updates. Windows Installer packages, extracted from the Windows installer for iTunes and signed by Apple, were also found, which he said raised legal concerns.[28] Cellebrite responded that the company "is committed to protecting the integrity of our customers' data, and we continually audit and update our software in order to equip our customers with the best digital intelligence solutions available."[29] The report by Signal followed an announcement by Cellebrite in 2020 that it had developed technology to crack encrypted messages in the Signal app, a claim the company later retracted and downplayed.[30][31] The announcement by Marlinspike raised questions about the integrity of data extracted by the software,[32][33] and prompted Cellebrite to patch some of the vulnerabilities found by Signal and to remove full support for analyzing iPhones.[34][35]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cellebrite

Sounds like it is just malware to me.

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[–] grehund@lemmy.world 94 points 3 days ago (7 children)

They don’t want people installing GrapheneOS on them.

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[–] D_C@sh.itjust.works 46 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
          Apple   

The Official Phone Of Genocide


Lets face it, the more you know about ol' tyranty boy StevieJobs the more it makes sense.

[–] ILiveByTheRiver@lemmings.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I was already thinking of getting a Linux phone next, this is helping to seal the deal. Fuck Apple the genocide enablers.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

please do explain how Apple is doing anything here. If Israel wants to provide their military with iPhones they're going to no matter what Apple does.

[–] cockmushroom@reddthat.com 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They don't have to do business with/in Israel.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

This is an American company. They will do what their leaders from Israel want because no company seems to have the stones to tell them to pound sand.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

That still will not stop a nation state (especially Israel) from getting their hands on Apple devices.

[–] NamedUser@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Mind sharing any linux phones candidates you are considering?

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Android is technically based on Linux so maybe go with a custom ROM like Grapheme? I've found the experience on it to be enjoyable personally and feel a lot better about my security even if I don't lock it down as hard as some people.

[–] Psychonaut1969@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

FLX1s from furilabs.com is the one I'm going to try.

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