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How much is that remote job worth to you? Americans will part with pay to work from home (eu.usatoday.com)
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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 75 points 2 years ago (4 children)

No we won’t and this nonsense article tries to set a very bad precedent. I was dealing with this just yesterday, new job offer comes my way last month with 2 salary choices. Come in the office for 20% more pay, work from home for less. I’m already making the higher amount with my current job, working from home. So I pass, They counter and offer other perks, I pass. This goes on for 9 days now. Yesterday, I just told them to stop, I have zero interest in working with a company that tries every way to hire me except for what I ask for.

I might add that the financials of the company were north of a billion. Get paid for what you’re worth, not where you work.

[–] UnknownCircle@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

This should be standard, people don't become less productive when working from home. Vast majority of wfh folks I know spend more time and are more productive at home. If my company tried to pull this nonsense (it wouldn't because its actually a great place to work) I'd immediately start looking for a different job. On Linkedin and other platforms I literally don't even consider or look at non wfh positions.

Also I don't know what jobs are thinking. Its stupid to think someone will change jobs for less pay and move into a non-wfh position from a wfh one. Those jobs should always be avoided, because they clearly think you're too stupid to do basic math.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

I generally tell them X is my floor and they usually do not try to counter then. They just say they can meet it or not.

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[–] ares35@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

good call.

an employer playing those kinds of games with job candidates is one that's also fucking with the system for their actual employees, too.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, their Glassdoor reviews were a hint, 3.2 stars.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah this is just the bullshit of asserting that you’re less valuable if you work from home. Work from home needs to be seen more like a corner office but in a building where everyone can have one. It’s wonderful and if you can’t offer as much money it may cover the gap, but it’s more likely to cost you someone for not offering than save you money.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

See, my job has me on camera a few hours every day. And then beyond that I’m productive by producing code, or diagrams. So while my work might be “hidden”, there’s a way to track it without me warming a chair in a big office.

[–] ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Can I ask what it is you do? I had a back injury earlier this year and it's starting to look like I'm going to have to give up my really good paying job at UPS and I might be in need of something far less physical.

[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, IT Consultant. but I know for a fact there are a large number of entry IT jobs out there if you have the background knowledge.

[–] ImpossibilityBox@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Sorta kinda. I was the sudo IT guy for the church my in laws went to as well as their sound tech for front of house. I'll have to look out for something like that.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We've reduced/eliminated our office bills with WFH and the money we saved went to executive compensation. How can we increase our salaries further? Let's just take it from the employees

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes I feel quite sure the article intends "will part with" as "are willing to part with" when in reality it's going to be "will be made to part with."

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

WFH employees are saving money on gas which easily makes up for the 20k pay cut

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

You almost had me.

[–] HerbalGamer@lemm.ee 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Less costs for building maintenance means less salary? Fuck off.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I think their true motivation is less available tax write-offs for that commercial real estate expense, which seems to me like piss poor adaptability of a company that a free market should eat alive.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Or…OR!…and hear me out here…we work remotely in jobs where it is sensible to do so, AND keep the pay.

Garbage corpo propaganda piece.

[–] snooggums@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When my job went remote from covid it was like getting a double digit raise if I count the commute as overtime and vehicle costs plus on site meals.

That means working from home is comparable to a pay raise. That does not mean that workers need to give anything up to keep it. It means companies need to pay more to people who are required to commute.

[–] HubertManne@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

yup. I give a rate for 100% wfh and what the bump has to be for each day of the week expected in office. I will work in office but they will have to pay and its not cheap.

[–] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No way, they should pay me more since they're saving money on office space. Why do the employees have to take a cut by default?

[–] zagaberoo@beehaw.org 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because people value working from home a lot, so a company doesn't have to offer as much pay and they're still likely to find interested, qualified candidates.