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[–] irdc@derp.foo 140 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is a bad look for Apple: it shows that there's basically no editorial independence at Apple TV, something that has been a well-established feature at for-profit newspapers and television channels for decades. This clearly demonstrates that Apple TV cannot be trusted when it comes to serious news.

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 139 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

“According to The Hollywood Reporter, ahead of its decision to end The Problem, Apple approached Stewart directly and expressed its need for the host and his team to be “aligned” with the company’s views on topics discussed. Rather than falling in line when Apple threatened to cancel the show, Stewart reportedly decided to walk.”

The least surprising thing possible to any Jon Stewart fan.

I can’t wait to see him on the late night shows.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 years ago

One of the few people that can stand up to Apple, take an L, and still be more than okay in career and spirit.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I can’t imagine any manager who’s dense enough not to know what Stewart’s reaction would be to that sort of line, and whoever suggested a meeting about it should be ashamed.

The day he runs for president (and wins) will be a day that people full of bullshit will remember as the beginning of the end…

[–] CylonBunny@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is disappointing of Apple. You hire someone like Jon Stewart and you have to expect him to do hard hitting journalism! Apple is one of the biggest companies in the whole world, they can afford to support their journalists. I’m sure HBO has gone to bat for John Oliver for worse.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

They have their mouths full of winnie the pooh’s cock, and at this point they dont care about anything else.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they already monitor your imessages and if they are critical of china they snitch to the local confucius institute.

[–] MudMan@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I am very neutral on this in general. Honestly, Stewart does not need Apple at this point pretty much at all.

But man, to have been a fly on the wall in that meeting. I've seen Stewart's "disappointed in you and not particularly worried about it" face and it's weapons grade old dad disappointment. There were definitely sweaty outlines on many of those chairs by the end of it.

[–] Endorkend@kbin.social 33 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Stewart does not need Apple at this point pretty much at all.

Did he ever tho?

It's Jon Stewart. He can start a YouTube show and hit millions of subscribers within a week.

[–] ilikekeyboards@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And then get banned from YouTube because he's not aligning with the company

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 years ago

If Russel Brand can be on Youtube without getting banned for his content, I think Jon would be fine.

[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Stewart could single-handedly start “JonTube” and it would be a success with no content but his own.

I could only dream of a news network with Jon at the helm. Fuck it would be glorious.

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 years ago

He needs a platform for his show. He probably wouldn't care if it was on OAN if he was able to do his own thing.

He's not going to do Youtube. If you're an actual celebrity, that's career suicide.

[–] irdc@derp.foo 2 points 2 years ago

Not YouTube: too controversial. But I wouldn't put it past him to start his own federated service.

[–] BaroqueInMind@kbin.social 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's almost like corporate profits are more important than the message.

[–] sab@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

I appreciate that this is a forum for Apple enthusiasts, but as someone who is not particularly enthusiastic about any big tech company but loves Jon Stewart, I consider this good news. Hopefully he'll keep it going somewhere else.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

Thank god it was cancelled… people would have discovered that china uses ai for controlling their citizens (and possibly others). Something that is totally not known to anyone

[–] bamboo@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apple also makes original content for Apple News+, they have some podcasts. I wonder if their original work there is subject to the same policy. If so, that really undermines their credibility as a news source.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago

Yeah no shit. Who would have thought that a phone making company wouldn't be beholden to the highest journalistic standards.

[–] Desistance@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I'm sure he can move his show to another service without these Apple hangups.

[–] TheDannysaur@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First episode on the new network - The Problem With Apple

[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

You know he's gonna talk about it soon

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't get why he didn't just go on YouTube full episodes instead of apple. I would love to watch his show, but I don't want to pay apple a subscription.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because Google didn't offer him a contract

[–] penquin@lemmy.kde.social -4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Why does he need a contract. He can just make a YouTube channel and start making money from ad revenue (I know it's not much), sponsors, patreon, memberships and so on.

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That would not be sustainable long term for this type of show, he's not a single youtube content creator with maybe 1-3 editors, he has a buttload of staff who presumably get paid professional wages and his team uses a buttload of expensive professional equipment and has to do a buttload of expensive legwork and research and so on.

[–] bighi@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

He needs a contract to make money. Putting his episodes on YouTube without being paid to do it would benefit Google.

The message he’s sending is: “if you want my show, pay me”.

The $250 he would earn with Adsense on YouTube is irrelevant.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You answered your own question. Not having to deal with all those different revenue streams is worth something and I'm sure Apple offered him more than he'd get that way, too

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

Jon Stewart, as selfless as he can be, wants to get paid for his time. Ad revenue is chump change.

[–] mancy@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Just cancelled Apple TV+ 🙂

[–] Kodemystic@lemmy.kodemystic.dev 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Nogami@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

already in the news: Apple is dumping China as fast as they can without majorly impacting their products. Manufacturing switching to other countries already.

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

Good on him for sticking to his ideals. I don’t always see eye to eye with Stewart, but he’s smart, principled, and articulate. Very interesting to hear how Apple is so married to China and AI. I wonder how much we don’t hear because companies and media are afraid of angering the CCP. Thankfully Biden is continuing Trump’s policies of decoupling from China. We can’t do business with genocidal dictatorships and expect to walk away unscathed.

[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago

Apple doesn't give a shit about democracy, who would have thought?