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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Has this console generation even started yet?

[–] Wigglesworth@retrolemmy.com 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Start by making some content for the systems you already fucking have. My ps5 gets closer to facebook marketplace every day.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

That's a terrible business model and the shareholders disapprove.

/S kinda

[–] vane@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think PS5 and XSX versions will be affected at all.

But since us on PC have to wait for that release AND the double dip on the PS6/New Xbox - we're going to waiting until 2030 and beyond now.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

At this point I'm pretending that the game hasn't even been announced yet.

I admit I bought an XBOX 360 for GTA V so I wouldn't have to wait for PC, but TBF you could get a used 360 for about $60 because the next gen was just around the corner. I'm not seeing any PS5s selling for anywhere near that cheap, so I won't be playing GTA VI until it releases on PC this time around.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 116 points 4 days ago (3 children)

What im hearing is that if we want those things sooner and at a reasonable price, we should do anything and everything possible to pop the AI bubble.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 84 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for us to own nothing.

Edit: Spelling

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago (12 children)

I admire your optimism, but I think this will get used as leverage for a push to cloud gaming. The end goal is for is to own nothing.

They're certainly welcome to attempt selling that to me.

They won't like the outcome, but that's more of a them problem.

[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We'll see. I hope you're right. Similar tactics in the housing market have created situations in which rent is cheaper than mortgage payments, which is a bad portent.

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

what? no they haven't. Rent is usually more expensive than mortgage payments we just set up the finanical system to disallow most renters from taking out a mortgage because its more profitable to trap people in an endless cycle of payment.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago

I mean, I’ve already got a backlog of 100+ Steam and GOG games I haven’t played yet, plus something like 1000+ retro game ROMs, and I’m happy to go digging in the crates as it were. There are already more games available than I’ll have time to play in my lifetime.

They push cloud gaming and I go fuck off entirely.

Doesn't that rely on everyone having a fast internet connection with a high data cap? That's not the case for a lot of people

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[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 15 points 3 days ago

Good honestly, we don’t need another generation yet. Constraints are good for innovation.

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is great news for the video game community as even Sony and Microsoft admit consoles have nowhere else to go. They are already maxed out mini PC's. So without huge graphics cards, you will see ZERO actual improvements on a 2028 console.

Save your money.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dont want consoles to "get better" i want them to do more.

kinect was great and they killed it

1v100 was great and is kill

360 was promising us a virtual economy where pseudo-modders could make skins and sell them and they decided no

mixxer seemed great and is kill

picture in picture was great for waiting for games with really low player count but is kill

where's WoW

they stopped shipping headsets with xbox and now voice chat is basically dead.

basically everyone has phones now but theres next to no uses other than jackbox and dance game

the avatars were pretty sweet, a nice cute MTX-fueled self-insertion gimmick.

These are jsut xbox related because peasantry. I could go on and on if I put some thought into it, and what's worse is that a lot of my gripes there ACTUALLY EXISTED. They saw it could be done, did it, then just said "lol no". I dont know what game theyre playing, just creating previous work to hoard patents or some shit, but we've got perverted by graphics over the ages.

We marveled at shiny graphics/polygon count/draw distance/objects on screen because it was the most surface-level, obvious, in-your-face evidence of improvements. Nobody but tech enthusiasts really care about it. The big improvements we actually gave a shit about are the quality of life features, control schemes and shit.

Goldeneye 007 on the N64 was considered a masterpiece, and is still looked on some 30 years later with nostalgia about the good old days. Go play it if you get a chance its near unplayable because the controls are weird. The dated graphics will be jarring but theyre not what irks you.

Stardew Valley is a straight rip-off of Harvest Moon, but go play a HM game from before SV. So much of it is janky and weird.

They'll be saying theres nowhere left to go because computing power has basically plateaud but there is so much more room for improvement and innovation.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I dont want consoles to "get better" i want them to do more.

Exactly. They could give us a built-in light gun and a steering wheel, and see what indie game developers do with them!

[–] httperror418@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Then sell controllers without the features for a cheaper, get onboard experience (I'm still pissed about the kinect, I liked the idea of everyone having it, only for them to then sell consoles without it 🙃)

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 35 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Console gaming now is stupid. The Xbox and PlayStation are both just x86_64 PCs with different colored plastic shells.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

The PS5 base security keys got leaked, it's going to be a full fledge PC once the modders get to work. Might be the cheapest way to get ram now hah.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It will definitely boost PS5 sales. Sony loves to boast about PlayStation 2 being the best selling console in history but they conveniently leave out the reason. It’s because there are modchips and even software jailbreaks for the console. It’s why it sold super well during the end of its lifetime in low and middle income regions.

[–] Natanael 14 points 3 days ago

Actually the reason is it was the cheapest DVD player for ages

PS3 was also the cheapest blueray player at the time, but the weird architecture impacting game availability and lower demand for blueray movies prevented it from gaining the same popularity

[–] ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

I used to refuse change at the bakery when I was a kid and would instead pick something out of the stack of pirated PS2 games. Something like two US dollars? Three? Not an egregious sum for my child self to waste every so often. The death of the on the ground piracy culture of the third world really sucks, although those beautifully dodgy TV boxes give me hope for humanity.

Those were the fucking days eh? You either catch a movie on TV or in the cinema, or you get lucky with whatever they’ve got on random counters in random shops. Remember watching schlock? Was that bad for culture? Was it really that bad?

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[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

Oh wut? Lol my PS5 just got a lot more interesting.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 days ago

The original Xbox even had a hard drive and DVD ROM player connected by IDE cables so it didn't change much.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

Indeed and two years of advancement for steamboxes / Linux gaming distros will be the nail in the coffin. These are the last of their kind.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago
[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago

Good. Let's make everyone hate ai so we turn against it and regress back to a better time.

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 days ago

Good, that will make my GPU relevant for longer

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

Do we really need another playstation when they only just recently stopped putting every game on the ps4?

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There won‘t really be a next Xbox. I think Microsoft made that very clear. It‘s all cloud gaming for AAA from here on out.

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Do enough people even like the added latency of cloud gaming? And is that going to be tolerated for popular games like COD, Fortnite, or Valorant?

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[–] kinkles@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Microsoft could justify a $1000 console if it can also be used as a full desktop computer. I couldn’t see Sony doing something similar unless they miraculously brought back Linux mode.

But I also wonder if Microsoft will take a legit attempt at salvaging the Xbox brand next generation since they’ve completely blown this one now and are making no steps to remedy it.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

$1000 computer running windows 11?

At these RAM prices?

They've had the hardware for it since the first Xbox, so I assume they've gone out of their way to avoid that. I believe they want to make sure their consumers buy both an Xbox and a PC.

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[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good, I can’t afford new shit now anyways. Gimme shit for the shit I have.

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[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good. They can both run Cyberpunk. Games don't need to look better than that. Let's focus on porting older PC games that still have some life in them to existing consoles, and/or getting Steam running on them.

At some point we gotta say "what can we do with the tech we have" rather than looking toward the next one. Look at the Switch 2, it only has a couple games the Switch 1 can't play, and "Switch 2 Edition" of existing games... that update was completely unnecessary. But they're gonna release a big update for the biggest Switch game (Animal Crossing) in a couple weeks. Making existing games have more value.

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[–] llamatron@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

So it's not all bad news then

[–] Thoath@leminal.space 8 points 4 days ago

So y'all remember when they had more than 5 games for their consoles? Why the fuck do we need a bigger better one? The ps5 still comes off as fucking useless in my understanding so, making the tech more complex without taking care of their gaming situation is a ridiculous cash grab and serves only to isolate the industry MORE from the gaming consumer

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